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Subject: [Leica] No comments about the SOFORT ??
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:26:47 +0100
References: <88458113-25F2-4FD2-A6F9-B7BC6B72CD85@icloud.com> <D4044887.66828%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CAF8hL-E6fURB4EKUPukgY_08ha-jE8+8kb7LMpK=t=4xwdB=ng@mail.gmail.com> <CAJTEq28dy+7TYRdtZTwaKHmRks-MP0qTD69eo66N-X-cNMGdCQ@mail.gmail.com> <5F38F45A-B899-42E5-B14D-707F742721FA@icloud.com> <CAH1UNJ1ZWLpJg6bBucNo1vuSbr=PR5BysyYn64G1m8Np6dZ4kw@mail.gmail.com> <69919834-1111-4BBE-824D-66DDF658184F@icloud.com> <dc09fb00-6415-9d8a-4c2d-a5eec20782b4@gmx.de>

Another to add to the ?new? trend at ?285 or $370 by my calculation:

https://mint-camera.com/tl70/

Gerry


> On 19 Sep 2016, at 09:49, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Seems there are a lot of them, too.
> 
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/smile-the-polaroid-style-instant-camera-is-back-1463590142
> 
> Cheers
> Douglas
> 
> On 19.09.2016 09:43, Gerry Walden wrote:
>> We are talking about the same Millennials who queue around the block for 
>> their iPhone 7s and drive the gold-plated Bentleys I see around town now, 
>> the same ones who earn $500,000 a week kicking a ball around are we? For 
>> these Millennials it is a fun party camera with panache.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2016, at 07:37, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The millennials, as per the numerous studies that have been done to date,
>>> are, by and large, far too careful with their money to pay six times the
>>> cost of an Instax for a Sofort, for essentially the same product.
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>> icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Philippe
>>>> 
>>>> Go back to your youth: the wild parties, the Polaroid pictures etc.etc.
>>>> That is what makes the Instax (and maybe the new SOFORT) attractive. 
>>>> Just
>>>> think, all those fun pics to pass amongst your friends with the cache of
>>>> knowing/boasting about that you have a Leica, the camera for the rich. 
>>>> It
>>>> will sell!!
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Sep 2016, at 06:55, Philippe Amard <photo.philippe.amard at 
>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This is the part where I start feeling old ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amities
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2016-09-19 7:45 GMT+02:00 Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Young people LOVE the Instax!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>>>>>> rabinergroup.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As its going for 300 bucks I cant see any way its going to be made in
>>>> the
>>>>>>> new Leica circular mall in Wetzlar with wooden mallets by third
>>>>>> generation
>>>>>>> mallet hitters taking a beer break for lunch.. Its going to be made
>>>> where
>>>>>>> they have the space to do by the tens of thousands so at that's going
>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> made by slave children in Thailand. (exaggeration but you get my 
>>>>>>> point)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/18/16 3:14 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is very similar to the Fuji Instax, and appears to use the same
>>>>>>> film. I
>>>>>>>> understand the Instax is very popular in the younger market segment
>>>> and
>>>>>>> i feel
>>>>>>>> sure Leica have done their research on this one. There is a big 
>>>>>>>> market
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> there so far untapped by Leica.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Sep 2016, at 06:01, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I find it hard to imagine that young people, for whom photos are
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> you take with a mobile and share on Instagram, will spend the money
>>>> on
>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>>>> the film for this device. The only people I know who use instant
>>>>>>> photography
>>>>>>>>> are art types for whom the little prints are an ingredient in 
>>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>>> creation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.
>>>>>>> wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Sep 2016, at 00:33, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at gmx.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK - there's a group of potential customers that goes by the 
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> young people;-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not all that many here on the list, but a big market segment that
>>>>>>> Leica has,
>>>>>>>>>> up to now, seldom addressed or accessed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Young people get older and - if the Sofort makes them happy - may
>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> stick
>>>>>>>>>> with the brand and take a closer look at what else it has to 
>>>>>>>>>> offer.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just like the MINI drivers who move on and up to BMWs. A perfectly
>>>>>>> logical
>>>>>>>>>> marketing strategy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17.09.2016 22:55, Peter Dzwig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Does it really merit comment?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/09/2016 19:48, John McMaster wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure who the expected market is, although could maybe
>>>>>> guess.....
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-Sofort
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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