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Subject: [Leica] IMG: more grainy portraits KISS!
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:37:45 -0500
References: <A514351A-87E6-4676-9BA6-4F1653435318@frozenlight.eu> <CAH1UNJ2yn=K=kQruoWdg7px_c2MGaT6CDo4GMpZFwhhzsa0HRQ@mail.gmail.com> <Mba71t00X07g8Sg01ba87c>

Well, sometimes I use b&w conversion software (TrueGrain) that imitates 
film stock and adds the appropriate grain.  Not digital grain, but grain 
from scanned developed film stock.  Or, I can convert to b&w in SEP or 
whatever, then add the grain in TrueGrain.  Sometimes it is what the 
image needs.  Strange, eh? http://grubbasoftware.com/

Ken




On 7/21/2016 6:15 PM, Ted Grant wrote:
> Hi Nathan,
> You see Nathan I look at your content, shrug my shoulders and say, "Cool
> happy snaps!"  GRAIN? WHAT GRAIN?"  :-)
> These images are happy snaps and on the screen look OK because once again!
> "THE "CONTENT" LOOKS JUST FINE!"
> Now if you were going to make 13X19 or 16X20 prints sure you'll have a 
> grain
> concern quite probably. An 8X10 glossy might give you a bit of concern?
> But things like some grain in the days of grain everyday shooting
> documentary assignments, almost no light in a big industrial complex, or a
> cowboy bunk house in the evening with lighting from a couple of coal oil
> lamps and pushing the film to ASA 1600? Grain? Really?
> Naw it was part of the mood!!  :-) Oh sure we had grain, but it was
> acceptable given the conditions and pushing. But the "CONTENT/MOOD?"
> Smashingly beautiful! :-) Sometimes making your tummy all kind of squiggly
> and you gut happy with the photograph!! :-)
> I look at the photos of your friends and the word "grain" never entered my
> mind, "IT'S THE CONTENT AND PLEASANT EXPRESSIONS!"
> Back in the days of only film you had the "OVER TECHIE" FOLKS..... "GRAIN
> HUNTERS" who were as bad as today's "over digital techie folks!" Who
> consistently are more concerned about techie digital stuff. But rarely ever
> seem to be concerned whether it is an interesting content? Or captured
> moment?
> Me? "auto contrast, push: "Oh that looks OK!" auto colour: push? "way cool
> man!" :-) And if a computer, "A heck of a lot smarter than I makes it look
> better?" I LEAVE IT BE! And if it doesn't look "COOL?"
> An easy fix: "UNDO AUTO-COLOUR or whatever?"  :-) CLICK! And then you look
> for the little whatever and squiggle it a bit and physically change the
> colour by the touch of your finger.
> "DANG that was EASY!" Surprising myself! :-)
> The big words are still "KISS!" & "CONTENT!"
> By the same token during my film years, I was always concerned about grain
> and slower ASA film use.
> CHEERS,
> Dr. ted grant  OC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Jayanand Govindaraj
> Sent: July-20-16 11:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: more grainy portraits
>
> Nice captures, but my personal opinion is the graininess detracts from
> overall effect.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Continuing to explore the joy of traditional photography, I have four
>> portraits of our Argentine/Catalan friends, taken on our back porch during
>> a recent visit:
>>
>> Just posing:
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-xCKrt3F/A
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-HFJ3bhV/A
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-wXQjkBb/A
>>
>> Kiss:
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-w7rCLNM/A
>>
>> The are grainy, partly because the film used (400 TMax) is what it is,
>> especially in combination with too warm ID11+. Still, I feel they have a
>> certain something. All four images made with a collapsible 50mm Summicron,
>> which is probably from before I was born.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
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>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
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