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Subject: [Leica] IMG: more grainy portraits KISS!
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:15:25 -0700
References: <A514351A-87E6-4676-9BA6-4F1653435318@frozenlight.eu> <CAH1UNJ2yn=K=kQruoWdg7px_c2MGaT6CDo4GMpZFwhhzsa0HRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Nathan,
You see Nathan I look at your content, shrug my shoulders and say, "Cool
happy snaps!"  GRAIN? WHAT GRAIN?"  :-)
These images are happy snaps and on the screen look OK because once again!
"THE "CONTENT" LOOKS JUST FINE!"
Now if you were going to make 13X19 or 16X20 prints sure you'll have a grain
concern quite probably. An 8X10 glossy might give you a bit of concern?
But things like some grain in the days of grain everyday shooting
documentary assignments, almost no light in a big industrial complex, or a
cowboy bunk house in the evening with lighting from a couple of coal oil
lamps and pushing the film to ASA 1600? Grain? Really? 
Naw it was part of the mood!!  :-) Oh sure we had grain, but it was
acceptable given the conditions and pushing. But the "CONTENT/MOOD?"
Smashingly beautiful! :-) Sometimes making your tummy all kind of squiggly
and you gut happy with the photograph!! :-) 
I look at the photos of your friends and the word "grain" never entered my
mind, "IT'S THE CONTENT AND PLEASANT EXPRESSIONS!"
Back in the days of only film you had the "OVER TECHIE" FOLKS..... "GRAIN
HUNTERS" who were as bad as today's "over digital techie folks!" Who
consistently are more concerned about techie digital stuff. But rarely ever
seem to be concerned whether it is an interesting content? Or captured
moment?
Me? "auto contrast, push: "Oh that looks OK!" auto colour: push? "way cool
man!" :-) And if a computer, "A heck of a lot smarter than I makes it look
better?" I LEAVE IT BE! And if it doesn't look "COOL?"
An easy fix: "UNDO AUTO-COLOUR or whatever?"  :-) CLICK! And then you look
for the little whatever and squiggle it a bit and physically change the
colour by the touch of your finger. 
"DANG that was EASY!" Surprising myself! :-)
The big words are still "KISS!" & "CONTENT!"
By the same token during my film years, I was always concerned about grain
and slower ASA film use.
CHEERS,
Dr. ted grant  OC





-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Jayanand Govindaraj
Sent: July-20-16 11:46 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: more grainy portraits

Nice captures, but my personal opinion is the graininess detracts from
overall effect.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Continuing to explore the joy of traditional photography, I have four
> portraits of our Argentine/Catalan friends, taken on our back porch during
> a recent visit:
>
> Just posing:
> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-xCKrt3F/A
> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-HFJ3bhV/A
> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-wXQjkBb/A
>
> Kiss:
> http://www.greatpix.eu/FIlm/Sometimes-I-use-film/i-w7rCLNM/A
>
> The are grainy, partly because the film used (400 TMax) is what it is,
> especially in combination with too warm ID11+. Still, I feel they have a
> certain something. All four images made with a collapsible 50mm Summicron,
> which is probably from before I was born.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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