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Subject: [Leica] Curious M10 startup time issue
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:16:33 -0700
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interesting and good points Frank.


steve



> On May 17, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> There is a common mistake here.....
> 
> First of all, the Camera format is very different than a card format....  
> The following is a simplified tutorial so we get stuff clear.
> 
> During a LOW LEVEL in-the-computer format, the card is completely 
> formatted, including the files and the file directory.... it IS now empty. 
>  Blank.  NADA.  Like new.
> During in-the-Camera format, the basic File Directory is modified.  Old 
> entries are deleted, and therefore, the card "looks" blank to the OS.  The 
> Image Files are still there, but the directions to the file locations have 
> been wiped clean so the camera ( or computer) can not locate them. A set 
> of directories is put on the card so the camera can write or read to it... 
> they really are directory ( or Folder, whichever language you speak)  
> locations with camera known names, nothing more.
> 
> The Correct Computer based formatting for a SDHC ( or really any) card is 
> FAT32 ( up to and including 32GB) or exFAT( for 64GB or more)......  NOT 
> NTFS..  NTFS is what your computer (Windows or MAC OS-whatever) wants to 
> do when you ask it to format anything.  To be clear, NTFS is the WRONG 
> format for these cards..
> See this:  
> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/312/~/formatting-a-memory-card,-flash-drive-or-device-using-a-pc
> 
> Here is the location of the SD Association freebie card formatter....    
> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
> Download and run it on your card in the computer.
> After you do that, THEN you MUST format in the camera.....remember, this 
> is a DIFFERENT type of formatting..... and does different things....
> 
> If your card starts acting funny, you should go to the computer,. Download 
> any images you can using whatever methods or programs you want. THEN do an 
> in-the-computer format.  This may make the card useable again.....
> 
> If the card is formatted by the computer WRONG, strange results WILL 
> happen.
> 
> Comment... if you have performed a format by way of your camera, you can 
> recover the lost images.  If you have formatted the card in the computer, 
> you are SOL.  Your images are lost.
> 
> Will any of this "fix" the M10 slow startup time?  I don?t know, but it is 
> a quick experiment that might just work.....
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> No offense, but it is my understanding that you should NEVER format camera 
> cards in a computer.  Always format them in the camera you plan to shoot 
> them in.
> 
> 
> 
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