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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - UPDATE
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 02:37:00 +0100
References: <37FE8F1A-AD7A-4DA2-92AF-26431CABECCB@icloud.com> <27C934F8-D470-43CA-904A-178BD52B6231@gmail.com> <A05DD0B5-639F-4DE8-9844-939A4997CCDC@icloud.com> <FFDF7FCA-BBED-4DFF-8B7E-B90EF7E165C3@frozenlight.eu> <56E5F0DE.8010004@summaventures.com> <56E9F105.6040905@summaventures.com> <E0BF41D5-ABE6-4779-AFF1-B7A8587D4A3B@icloud.com>

And when you take the M9 you will forget to switch ON/OFF the Battery!

Cheers
Lluis



> El 17 mar? 2016, a les 7:27, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va 
> escriure:
> 
> A quick update so far, now that I have shot a few frames and had the film 
> processed.
> 
> 1. I keep forgetting I have to wind the film on (oops!);
> 
> 2. I very nearly forgot that I have to wind the film back before I take 
> the base off (oops#2!);
> 
> 3. I have tried Fuji Neopan 400CN (C-41 process) which I understand is 
> made in the same plant as Ilford films, and I found it impossible to get a 
> good scan using Vuescan but it scans just fine in Silverfast: and
> 
> 4. Having read Peter?s bit below I may well try Ilford Delta 400 through 
> Ilford next.
> 
> I have scanned the images (nothing great!) and will post something to day 
> or tomorrow,
> 
> Gerry
> 
>> On 16 Mar 2016, at 23:49, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have to add a rider to this:
>> 
>> I went back to Ilford and complained. They apologised profusely and say 
>> that
>> they had the TIFFs still available but had written to CD as JPEGs in a 
>> variety
>> of resolutions, because that is their standard practice apparently.
>> 
>> They then downloaded the TIFFs to me directly. I have to say that the 
>> standard
>> is very high and the resolution vastly increased, the tonality shows much
>> greater depth and the noise correction that they apply has worked 
>> wonderfully.
>> FWIW the TIFFs are 13.5 Mb on disk, 4500 x 3000 pixels greyscale.
>> 
>> Originally they only sent me back the results from one film, but a gentle 
>> push
>> and the other was downloaded from the archive too.
>> 
>> So: A bit of a you-know-what, but put right in the end. Glad that I 
>> complained.
>> 
>> Outcome: Ilford are very much back in the frame. Just be careful to check 
>> what
>> they do.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 13/03/2016 22:59, Peter Dzwig wrote:
>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite limited...basically to
>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>> 
>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A lot 
>>> of these
>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble 
>>> experience.
>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>> excellent) local
>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>> 
>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev shop 
>>> and Ilford
>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who now 
>>> run it
>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a piece 
>>> of
>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a JPEG. 
>>> Trouble
>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>> 
>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>> variation
>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>> 
>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>> relationship.
>>> 
>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing machine
>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than supply 
>>> JPEGs
>>> 
>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>> 
>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 years 
>>>> ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before 
>>>> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
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>>>> YNWA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision to 
>>>>> shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I 
>>>>> am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m a 
>>>>>> little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I 
>>>>>> have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and 
>>>>>> one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an 
>>>>>> earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting back 
>>>>>>> to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup in case 
>>>>>>> anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot film for 
>>>>>>> around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to play with 
>>>>>>> it again. Back to the world of exploring which film is best handled 
>>>>>>> by the processors I guess because i don't want to get into the 
>>>>>>> processing side of life, which I never did enjoy. it should arrive 
>>>>>>> on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' half-case and a Leicatime 
>>>>>>> strap - such class!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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