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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:06:27 -0600
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When I get a new (to me) piece of gear, I take it out and play with it until 
I'm satisfied I'm comfortable with it, and can shoot without having to think 
about it and fiddle with it.  I call that testing. 

Sent from my iPhone

Sonny Carter
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> On Feb 11, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, exactly.
> 
> Thanks, Ken.
> 
> Tina
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It all boils down to what you're testing for.
>> 
>> If you are comparing the image quality in a strict manner, you have to
>> eliminate as many variables as possible.
>> 
>> But again, if the testing is for whether I enjoy using this camera, and no
>> more than that, there is no need to a tripod.
>> 
>> Both tests, at the most elemental level, and at the aggregate level, are
>> valid. But Tina's tests do not show whether M264 has better image
>> qualities. It tests whether she can produce better results with M264 or
>> not, where the image quality is an aggregate of resolution, dynamic range
>> and other attributes, as well as handling, and other more subjected
>> attributes.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
>> richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nothing wrong with "do I like to photograph with the camera and do the
>>> output looks good" subjective tests.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, George Lottermoser <
>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I have said before, I do not do controlled tests on tripods.  I do
>>>> real
>>>>> life tests the way I would use the cameras.  Tripod tests would be of
>>> no
>>>>> use to me since I never use a tripod.  I hold the camera or prop it
>> on
>>>> the
>>>>> nearest post.  It works for me, maybe not for others.
>>>> 
>>>> The question then becomes:
>>>> What qualities, or variables are you testing for?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Tina Manley
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