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Subject: [Leica] Fujifilm X-Pro 2 CAMERA?
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 16:33:53 -0500
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I was responding to Jayanand's comment:

"If you want to use manual focus lenses, well, buy a light and perfect M
body for it, at the same price. What is the point of buying (or even
getting) a huge, hulking AF body for that purpose, that too, one for which
hardly any native lenses are planned even a year or two down the road?"

The price is about the same for that.

Tina

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> 
wrote:

> Price can be a big factor Tina as the price is WAY more in Canada
> especially as some of us get older.
>
> Scott
>
> > On Jan 23, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > The Sl is not much heavier or bigger than the M240!!  Side by side, they
> > look almost the same.  The big thing is the 24-90 lens but you don't have
> > to use that on the SL.  The focusing enhancing EVF features make it easy
> to
> > focus old M lenses that I couldn't focus manually before.  The SL with
> the
> > 35/1.4 is almost as small and light as my old M bodies and so much easier
> > to focus!!!
> >
> > I hated my Fuji X-Pro 1, but that's just me.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
> > gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Philippe,
> >> Ted will not even be able to lift it! At that weight and size, Canons
> and
> >> Nikons make infinitely more sense! At least they are true system cameras
> >> with native lenses of every conceivable size shape and type available
> for
> >> them, at a multitude of price points.
> >>
> >> If you want to use manual focus lenses, well, buy a light and perfect M
> >> body for it, at the same price. What is the point of buying (or even
> >> getting) a huge, hulking AF body for that purpose, that too, one for
> which
> >> hardly any native lenses are planned even a year or two down the road?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Jayanand
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Philippe Amard <
> >> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> X-T1 and X-pro(n) are different cameras john :-)
> >>>
> >>> I didn't want the later as I was an R user and the X-Ts are closer to a
> >>> reflex.
> >>>
> >>> But I concur with others in many respects.
> >>>
> >>> Yet, however, and nevertheless, Ted deserves, and needs a red dot SL
> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Amities
> >>> Philippe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2016-01-23 10:29 GMT+01:00 John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>:
> >>>
> >>>> I had (for a month) an X-T1 with electronic finder, did not enjoy the
> >>>> experience at all. As my dealer said, if I was coming from Canikon
> >> APS-C
> >>>> cameras it would seem stunning, but as I was a Leica user.... It is
> >>>> designed to look like a rangefinder, but it does not feel like one
> IMO.
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Ted,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don?t know any other cameras than Leicas, but sometimes I had a Fuji
> >> (I
> >>>> don?t know which model) on my hands, I remember that Fuji has some
> >>> cameras
> >>>> with Electronic Viewfinder and others with hybrid VF, at least for me
> >>> that
> >>>> I?m used with the optic VF of Leica M, I dislike the electronic VF, it
> >>> is a
> >>>> nice camera but I recommend to try it before you go.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Lluis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> El 23 gen 2016, a les 0:21, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va
> >> escriure:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Steve & Scott,
> >>>>> I saw an add for the X-PRO-2 and my first re-action was???? "GEE THAT
> >>>> LOOKS LIKE an M-LEICA? Sure seems to have a bunch of bells and
> >> whistles I
> >>>> might take a liking to?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now finding out I can or could still use my Noctilux and several
> >> other
> >>>> Leica M lenses? I may well make this a two camera body purchase?
> >> However,
> >>>> maybe a start with one on a new project on seniors and elders I'm
> about
> >>> to
> >>>> start next week. I'll have ago with whatever is available. At least
> >> it'll
> >>>> give me bit of a start.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The EXPRO-2 must have a similar kind of feel as an M8????????.
> >>>>> It's the first camera I've taken a liking to other than Leica M in a
> >>>>> "hundred years!"  :-) :-) thank you.
> >>>>> cheers,
> >>>>> ted
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Steve Barbour
> >>>>> Sent: January-22-16 9:29 AM
> >>>>> To: LUG list
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fujifilm X-Pro 2 CAMERA?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ted I started investigating Fuji in Canada two years ago. Currently
> >>>> using the Fuji XT 1, an XE2 for most of my interior shooting and a
> >> small
> >>>> X100 T which is a simple and beautiful results camera to have with you
> >>> all
> >>>> the time with a fixed lens.
> >>>>>> I love the rangefinder style and have the X Pro 2 on order.
> >>>>>> The Fuji M mount adapter allows me to use my Leica lenses if I wish
> >>> too
> >>>> and as Nathan said the 90 Leica on the XT 1 is superb. But again as
> >>> Nathan
> >>>> said the Fuji lenses are superb.
> >>>>>> I would not have invested in this system had I not been very pleased
> >>>> with the bodies but more than that the results I get.
> >>>>>> I still use an M9 from time to time but Fuji is the go to for most
> >> of
> >>>> my work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as others have said, it is certainly worth your looking into this
> >>>>> system Ted,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> >>>>>>> frozenlight.eu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I had the X-Pro 1 but have replaced it with the X-T1. I never
> >> thought
> >>>> I would go with a fully electronic viewfinder but the one on the Fuji
> >> is
> >>> so
> >>>> good, and provides so many useful features, that I converted. Using my
> >>>> Leica lenses, especially the 90mm, on this body, is a joy. And of
> >> course
> >>>> the Fuji X lenses are excellent.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My M8 is now pretty much dedicated to IR photography or when I am
> >>> sure
> >>>> I will only be in daylight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> http://
> >>>>>>> <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> >>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> >>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 22 Jan 2016, at 08:50, Philippe <
> >> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ted, I'm also using X gear these days and I concur with Jayanand
> >> as
> >>>> to the hurdles in the learning curve, as well as to the (excellent)
> >>> results.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would add that the buttons are SMALL, and I know you have pretty
> >>>> large hands and surprisingly long fingers.
> >>>>>>>> You may read my conclusion between the lines?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, I've never been able to find or accurately reach those f...
> >>>> buttons/switches with my right thumb when my eye is against the VF.
> >>>>>>>> Do you remember how awkward the R4/5/6 felt compared to the R8 &
> >> R9?
> >>>>>>>> I feel just the same with my X-T1 even though it provides all
> >> these
> >>>> useful features I had not even dared to dream of in my R years.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tina went/stuck back to Leica I think.
> >>>>>>>> So did Gerry.
> >>>>>>>> For different valuable reasons.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps while waiting for the new release to be actually
> >>>> released .. and to have received "hands-on" experience on the field.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Amities de Mutz
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Philippe now lusting for a (still overpriced) SL, a lot!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 22 janv. 2016 ? 04:07, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> a
> >> ?crit :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Crew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fujifilm X-Pro 2  camera.??????
> >>>>>>>>> It kind of looks something like an M camera???? well OK in the
> >>>>>>>>> magazine promo sheet. :-) Anyone have a shot at using one of
> >> these
> >>>>>>>>> or any kind of good==bad==ugly comments about it??
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Dr. ted  :-)
> >>>>
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