Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]When SLRs are used for Video productions they're equipped with a host of accessories that make the ergonomically usable as video cameras. Often the accessories cost more than the camera. Brackets, cages, external microphones and viewfinders, as well as gadgets to allow an assistant to pull focus add up to big bucks. They often need to modify their lenses so the apertures don't click. No one takes a bare Leica 240 and shoots production grade video. On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I'm new to Utube ing there's no more reason to read any more you can see > home made videos concerning any topic you can think of. I was U tubing > Billingham bags I've found them necessary just got get an idea of how BIG > they are. Stills were not showing me. But with Utube ing you get al the odd > personalities. > Several levels of video out there now. > Lots of video from peoples cell phones. Vertical format. Edison would be > rolling over. But some of it you think if it was done slicker would be less > effective. > A step up or more from cell phone video is DSLR video which from all I can > tell has changed the face of modern cinematography. I think its the larger > format size but what I don't know about vidoe could fill a book. > A full episode of HOUSE a tv show I used to watch was done using DSLR > bodies > and I hear its used for feature film making for certain scenes or whole > films. I maybe the best for getting into dark hard to get to places again I > think its the larger format still cameras have than a real video camera > would have. > I don't have the option now. I not no still cameras with video in them. and > I don't have a video camera any more. I do have a cell phone though and > made a nice video with it once for my X's birthday. > > > On 11/19/15 6:28 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > > You've obviously not noticed the half assed Olympus 2005 solution to > live view > > on the 240 M. > > > > There's only one or two people on the LUG who have shot as much video as > I > > have in their lives; to my mind, the Leica is as ergonomic as a trash > can is > > for shooting video. No one has enough hands to use it right. There are > > several better was to do moving pictures with Leica glass. By next > year, most > > all new TV sets will be 4K, and the HD Leica image just won't cut it, no > > matter the glass. > > > > If you weren't talking through your hat, you'd already be shooting pure > Leica > > video. > > > > from my iPad > > > > Sonny Carter > > > >> On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> > >> People think they know what features they really don't need on a camera > they > >> really have little idea especially in this burgeoning digital > technology.. > >> Its always what you don't think. Other people sure as hell aren't going > to > >> know what features I'm going to use or not use on a camera body. If I > don't > >> know they sure don't. > >> With no Live View I'd get no focus peaking and 10x magnification. > >> I've never used stuff like this so I'm in to position to say I'd not > learn > >> to love them or hate them. I can say I'd not learn to love them if I > had > >> them removed from my camera options to shave off some money off the > thing... > >> When I got my digital Nikon D's they had a dozen features I'd not heard > of > >> and didn't seem to be a thing I'd need the very same features which > later > >> become my favorite parts of the cameras. I think the camera companies do > >> have some idea what we might need to have in a camera when they build > one > >> maybe give them the benefit of the doubt and give them a shot before we > >> write them off.. These features. > >> People think pros shoot at manual all the time disabling A and P and S > and > >> auto focus. Pros use everything all the time. > >> That little light which turns on and helps your camera focus in very low > >> light? We don't use that. > >> > >> I'd KILL to be able to shoot live footage with my Leica M glass. > >> I'd love it more than I'd love an ice cream soda right this very > minute. > >> > >> I'm glad " 'Leica M Photography in its purest form" no longer means CCD > >> sensors because that's vacuous. That's shooting oneself in the foot. > >> Purity of image is great but at the cost of any real camera speed at all > >> forget it. > >> > >> > >>> On 11/19/15 4:26 PM, "Peter Klein" <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> If I was in the market for a new color M camera, the 242 would actually > >>> make sense for me. I don't care about video. And while Live View is > nice to > >>> have, other cameras do it much better than the 240. So why not save a > >>> little? Two grand is not chicken feed. > >>> > >>> --Peter > >>> > >>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> So, if you had unlimited funds Mark, you would pay 2k more for > features you > >>>> never would use? If so, why? I'm truly curious... > >>>> Best, > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > >>>> rabinergroup.com > >>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Is someone who can gather 5 grand together for a camera not able to > >>>> gather > >>>>> 7? > >>>>> Buying a new M and saving money do not go together. Its not a saving > >>>> money > >>>>> kinds of deal. Its a spending a huge amount of money kind of deal. > >>>>> Buying an older used M and saving money might make a small amount of > >>>> sense. > >>>>> A every frustrating situation the idea of buying a dumbed down M. > Dumbed > >>>>> down for the masses of really stupid rich people who always feel > like a > >>>>> buck > >>>>> has to somehow be saved regardless of the consequences. A lot of > those > >>>>> around. "what's your BEST PRICE"?!? > >>>> > >>>>> -- > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mark William Rabiner > >> Photographer > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase USA