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Subject: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 18:02:42 -0400
References: <BLU404-EAS63A8AC0D8141607A94984BB8270@phx.gbl> <D24EC067.4ABA9%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CA+yJO1C1iMTx_4kX-EvM_0Ym0gxEL6utLOUG-xJPdFQQR5YXUA@mail.gmail.com> <0ac001d10d09$b807a2f0$2816e8d0$@mcmaster.fr> <CA+yJO1DEjCVm2kMWfiPFmv6xCmTtRgSVAtK-d3a5_bs0mgJYTQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA+yJO1AtykoOduVcFNZUubDqi-Ob9Pb_9Mk0PvR8jY_4J5XgyQ@mail.gmail.com> <7192BF90-D204-40B2-BBC6-D6661054E3E2@mac.com>

Thanks, Tarek.  I had no idea.  I hate menus so this one is probably not
for me.

Tina

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> wrote:

> Tina,
>
> It?s a rebadged Sony A99. An excellent camera? Sony is supposed (rumor) to
> bring out a new version later this year?
> I?m pretty happy with the sony alpha 7II & 7RII right now? the image
> quality is great with Leica R and Sony/Zeiss lenses. I have used some Leica
> M lenses, but not too much. The menus suck big time, but once you program
> the buttons with specific functions it?s ok.
>
>
> All the best from Paris!
>
> Tarek
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Tarek Charara
> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
> > Le 22 oct. 2015 ? 23:41, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> > If I did not have a ton of Leica lenses, I would be very tempted by this:
> >
> >
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1034962-REG/hasselblad_h_1105101_hv_dslr_camera_with.html
> >
> > Why have they reduced the price so much!!???
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and
> brick-like.
> >> More like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which
> >> others seem to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag
> than
> >> the Q which is what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240
> much.
> >> Only when I have the R lenses on it.
> >>
> >> Tina
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to
> hate?
> >>> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
> >>>
> >>> john
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but
> they
> >>> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder
> makes it
> >>> easier to manually focus them.
> >>>
> >>> Tina
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> >>> rabinergroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable (jacket
> >>>> exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens
> >>>> someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic
> >>>> on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an
> >>>> overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
> >>> bulkier.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we
> >>>> can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Interesting.  He also seems to state it has better image quality
> >>>>> than
> >>>> the M.
> >>>>> Here is a quote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a further
> >>>>> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy,
> >>>> though
> >>>>> in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing audience will see this
> >>>>> one
> >>>> as
> >>>>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses;
> >>>>> they?re easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M
> >>>>> cameras. It
> >>>> would
> >>>>> have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might have
> >>>> eaten
> >>>>> uncomfortably into S system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
> >>>>> the beginning of the end of the M resurgence ? a typical complaint
> >>>>> from M
> >>>> users
> >>>>> I know is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
> >>>> focus.
> >>>>> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
> >>>>> for
> >>>> a
> >>>>> body, the SL isn?t a stretch at all."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He also goes on a bit about the size.   BIG
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Aram Langhans
> >>>>> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
> >>>>> & Unemployed photographer
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
> >>>> himself
> >>>>> would ever have dared dream.?   James D. Watson
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
> >>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (from
> >>>>> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
> >>>>> 01/
> >>>> )
> >>>>>
> >>>>> john
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this
> >>>>> idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
> >>>>> SL size compared to a digital M:
> >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I look forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jay
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>>>> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or
> >>>>>> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too
> >>>>>> small and too light for me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tina Manley
> >> www.tinamanley.com
> >> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >>
> >>
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tina Manley
> > www.tinamanley.com
> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >
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>
>
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-- 
Tina Manley
www.tinamanley.com
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