Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/22

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Subject: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
From: mark at (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:33:43 -0400

The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable (jacket
exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M

I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens
someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic on
front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an overly
wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think bulkier.

I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we can see
how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.

On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at> wrote:

> Interesting.  He also seems to state it has better image quality than the 
> M.
> Here is a quote:
> "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a further
> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy, though
> in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing audience will see this one as
> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses; they?re
> easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M cameras. It would
> have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might have eaten
> uncomfortably into S system sales. I actually suspect this camera is the
> beginning of the end of the M resurgence ? a typical complaint from M users
> I know is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving focus.
> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+ for a
> body, the SL isn?t a stretch at all."
> He also goes on a bit about the size.   BIG
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
> ?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McMaster [mailto:john at]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
> (from
> )
> john
> -----Original Message-----
> It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this idea
> that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
> SL size compared to a digital M:
> I look forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
> Jay
> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or the
>> M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too small and
>> too light for me.
>> Tina
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