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Subject: [Leica] Leica announces SL (Typ 601), a 24MP full frame mirrorless capable of 11fps and 4K video
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:48:35 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1Bp4CZkU=__WbGUaoguHCp03WtKPw=BC-rxY-P_SdyeKA@mail.gmail.com> <0b2ffb77-5435-467b-a44d-709cfee5db65@me.com> <CA+yJO1ACJQYWC7vTnN-8+Xq14x1cRj_=PQ-p5SH2e5nnXkt01A@mail.gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ1+4CQE=-Rww3OPajTxphCuWgVyDcw6zY=p4yFbCzPrpw@mail.gmail.com>

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Tina, I read a detailed comparison of the Leica Q with the Fuji X100T in
> the latest issue of the Amateur Photographer, possibly one of the more
> honest magazines around as far as reviews go, because they get the bulk of
> their advertising revenue from Classifieds, and not the manufacturers. The
> Leica Q comes off better in practically every which way but the price. I
> think the Fuji itself is a marvelous camera, and I do own and use one, but
> I am definitely going to take a serious look at the Leica when I am next in
> a position to do so (there are no dealers in India as yet). Maybe buying a
> copy of the magazine for reading this particular article might be worth it?
> 
> If Fuji or Leica they bring out a fixed lens compact with a fast lens in
> the range of 75mm to 90mm, I would buy one in a heartbeat!


not at all surprised. The Fuji X100T is a great camera , the Q is better.


steve



> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree, Gerry!  I'm hoping the high price indicates Leica quality and not
>> just Leica economics!  I'm still considering it.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>> icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> I have not held this camera, but to me it seems as if Leica are trying to
>>> catch up with Fujifilm. The Q is their answer to the X100, and now the SL
>>> is the X-T. the Leica is no doubt an awful lot better, but they are very
>>> late in the catch-up game.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 03:31 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I want something that feels like a Leica, not a Sony or a Fuji or a Canon
>>> or a Nikon. I don't want video or EVF or lots of buttons and wheels. I
>>> want an M rangefinder - but with autofocus. I guess it might not be
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>> gmail.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried a Q at Leica in New York and the minute I picked it up, I hated
>>>> it. I cannot hold a camera out and take a photo and looking through the
>>>> viewfinder made me sick to my stomach. It's also too light and plasticky
>>>> feeling for me.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really can?t agree with this Tina. I do not understand what you are
>>> after. While it feels fine to me, it does not feel like a brick, it?s
>>> simply not a brick.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>> gmail.com
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Q is great, why not a Q with interchangeable lenses, still a lot
>>>>> better than a rangefinder. Nikon and Canon are trying to come down in
>>>>> size, so why just now is Leica wanting to go bigger?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've told my Leica guy that I'm having second thoughts after reading
>>>>>> 
>>>>> this
>>> 
>>>> review:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://leicarumors.com/2015/10/20/the-leica-sl-typ-601-camera-review-leica-gambles-big.aspx/
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> If I bought an SL and then Leica came out with an actual M with
>>>>>> 
>>>>> autofocus,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would be very, very upset. A new M is rumored. I'm going to Iran in
>>>>>> April and was hoping for an autofocus camera before then. Chances are
>>>>>> 
>>>>> slim
>>>>> 
>>>>>> and none, I guess.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at 
>>>>>> mac.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts from Luminous Landscape today on SL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The other main concern which I have is the user interface. The SL is
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> very
>>>>> 
>>>>>> similar to the S in this regard, which means that there are unlabeled
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> soft
>>>>> 
>>>>>> keys surrounding the rear LCD that make quick settings and navigation
>>>>>>> time-consuming and non-intuitive. I found the new S very difficult to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> come
>>>>> 
>>>>>> to terms with for this reason, and I would expect the SL to not be
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> much
>>> 
>>>> different."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes. That drove me crazy with the many, many focus points you could
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> choose
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> with the Canon DSLRs. I'm hoping Leica has solved that. I would
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> settle
>>>>> 
>>>>>> for a "focus on the center and recompose" solution. You could do
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that
>>> 
>>>> with
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the Canon but it wasn't intuitive or easy! Too many buttons and
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wheels
>>> 
>>>> and
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Robert Baron <
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ===On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at 
>>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Autofocus. My eyes are getting older by the minute.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Nathan Wajsman <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But why?don?t you already have the M240, the Monochrom etc.?so
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>> 
>>>> is
>>>>> 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> point of this one?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem, Tina, but in my experience I have a tough
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>> 
>>>>>> convincing autofocus to focus on what I want it to focus on.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --Bob
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>>>>> http://www.tinamanley.com
>>>>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>>> http://www.tinamanley.com
>>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Tina Manley
>>>> http://www.tinamanley.com
>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley
>>> http://www.tinamanley.com
>>> 
>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Tina Manley
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>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>> 
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>> 
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In reply to: Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Leica announces SL (Typ 601), a 24MP full frame mirrorless capable of 11fps and 4K video)
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