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Subject: [Leica] Viewfinder problem
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:36:13 +0100
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Thanks Peter!

Gerry

Gerry Walden
023 8046 3076

> On 21 Jul 2015, at 07:29, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Gerry:  How much you see of the viewfinder is a very individual thing--your
> eye's lens, the shape of your nose and eye socket, and whether you wear
> glasses or not all affect it.  I can only see the 50mm frame with glasses.
> Without them, I can see the 35mm frame, but not the 28. Fortunately, I
> don't use 28mm much. What helps is to have a diopter that matches your
> eye.  I now use a +0.5 diopter.  I went to my eye doctor with my Leica, and
> looked through the viewfinder using several different trail lenses,
> focusing on something about 6 ft/2m away. It was very clear which one was
> best.
> 
> I now use my glasses with the 50 (and they are bifocals, so I can see the
> controls and menus with them).  For the 35, I have to either move my eye
> around a bit, or I put my glasses on a neck cord and take them off my face
> when I use the 35mm.  One of those compromises I've learned to live with as
> my vintage ripens :-)
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Herbert for sharing your experiences. I think the reality is that I
>> should probably be wearing glasses more than I do, or care to admit to,
>> after all I am not getting older am I? Next time I am with the optician I
>> will discuss the situation and then probably carry on as before, because I
>> am trying to deny the age thing (fairly unsuccessfully I might add!)
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Gerry Walden
>> 023 8046 3076
>> 
>>> On 21 Jul 2015, at 01:30, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Are you wearing glasses? Do you have to wear glasses when looking
>> through the viewfinder? If the answer is yes, one solution to seeing the
>> frame lines easily is to take of your glasses, but if necessary, buy and
>> screw in a Leica diopter correction lens into the viewfinder opening.
>>> 
>>> Two problems: 1. Taking your glasses on and off is a pain. When I was
>> using an M6, I had a neck cord on the ears so I could just taken the off
>> end let them hang. 2. Leica wanted (fifteen or twenty years go) almost 
>> $100
>> for that correction lens.
>>> 
>>> When I burned out on darkroom work, mostly color printing, I quit
>> photography for a couple of years, after which I managed to lose my
>> darkroom because my wife insisted we replace it with a second bathroom.
>> Several years passed before I broke down and bought an M9. By that time, I
>> had forgotten all about glasses and diopter corrections?in fact my eyes 
>> had
>> changed to the point that for distant vision, it didn?t really matter
>> whether or not I was wearing my trifocals. So, not to be burdened with
>> messing around with my glasses, I just kept them on. I had really 
>> forgotten
>> all about that correction lens. My two lenses are 35 and 90, and I use the
>> 35 about 99% of the time. So, I just didn?t let the 
>> hard-to-see-sll-at-once
>> 35mm frame lines not bother me. Most of the time, I?m doing some cropping
>> on all sides anyway. If, when taking the picture, one of the four sides is
>> critical, I just position my eye so that I can easily see the relevant
>> frame line.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 650-326-8204
>>> 
>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I appreciate there is nothing wrong with my nearly acquired M9 but I
>> need a little help.
>>>> 
>>>> With the 35mm lens fitted (the only one I have) the frame lines are at
>> the edge of my field of view. There is space around them so the camera is
>> fine, it is my eyes. Has anyone any suggestions how I see more of the
>> viewfinder?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>> www.gwpics.com <http://www.gwpics.com/>
>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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In reply to: Message from gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden) ([Leica] Viewfinder problem)
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Message from gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden) ([Leica] Viewfinder problem)
Message from boulanger.croissant at gmail.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Viewfinder problem)