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Subject: [Leica] OT Sensor rot
From: ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:24:13 -0400
References: <D19DBF94.3CCA0%mark@rabinergroup.com> <BLU173-DS79C4D4572E6331EA46772B8BD0@phx.gbl>

remember when buying from a local dealer was a good thing for service?

was i wrong all along?

ric


> On Jun 10, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Similar story with me and Olympus going on right now.  Sent a camera in 
> through a camera store.  That was three weeks ago and still no estimate.  
> I tried e-mail and talking to them and basically the will not talk to me 
> since the camera store is the customer, not me.  Even though I own the 
> camera. Finally made some progress yesterday, so we'll see if they send an 
> estimate or hopefully extend the warranty about 3 week and cover the 
> problem.
> 
> Aram
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:19 AM
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT Sensor rot
> 
>> You can start by having your camera store send it in for you then calling
>> Leica and seeing what kind of response you get. As the camera store in 
>> this
>> repair transaction is their customer not you you'd be lucky if they took 
>> the
>> call at all. I wouldn't!
>> A lot of years on the Lug and I'm trying to remember someone having a 
>> camera
>> store send in their Leica to Germany instead of just sending it 
>> themselves..
>> I think this is a first.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/10/15 9:49 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> And it is stories like this that would actively stop me buying a digital 
>>> Leica
>>> of any kind. OK, all cameras are liable to need a new sensor, and no 
>>> camera is
>>> immune from that, but poor customer service like this has no
>>> excuses.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Gerry Walden
>> 023 8046 3076
>> 
>>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 07:43,
>>> Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here?s the final ending of the M9
>>> sensor rot story I phoned Leica this morning (about  3 PM their time) 
>>> and for
>>> the first time the phone was answered by a very snarky woman. All she 
>>> would
>>> tell me was that my camera needed a new sensor. When I asked to speak to 
>>> the
>>> technician, she said customers don?t get to speak to technicians. When I 
>>> made
>>> reference to an upgrade to an M 240, she said that since a camera store 
>>> sent
>>> it in, I had to speak to the camera store!!!.
>>> 
>>> So, I phoned Keeble and
>>> Shuchat, and the nice chap there told me that technically, she was 
>>> right, but
>>> !!! He also said that they had also asked the store to send in a picture
>>> showing the fault. He wondered why they couldn?t put a card in the 
>>> camera and
>>> take a picture themselves. So, he promised to make inquiries of Leica as 
>>> to a
>>> deal, and would phone me, probably tomorrow. To my surprise, he phoned 
>>> me this
>>> afternoon with the info. a) I can get an upgrade to an MP for around 
>>> $350 (I
>>> don?t remember the exact price, because I didn?t care) or b) an upgrade 
>>> to an
>>> M 240 for $3000. I decided this afternoon to accept that offer, and will 
>>> phone
>>> K&S tomorrow morning. I?ll just consider it my 93d birthday present.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 650-326-8204
>>> 
>>> Question authority and the
>>> authorities will question you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:31 PM, John
>>> McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Leica have moved back to Wetzlar
>>> ;-) Also should Kodak get some of this blame, it is not as if Leica made 
>>> the
>>> sensors....
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>> Herb, that's
>>> not customer service, that's terrible treatment.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd want a very good
>>> M240 upgrade discount to compensate. If Leica want to continue to have 
>>> candles
>>> burning on an altar, with willing acolyte, at Rabiner's Church of Solms, 
>>> they
>>> better fix this hole in their reputation.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck on the deal.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Douglas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> 
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Replies: Reply from nwajsman at gmail.com (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] OT Sensor rot)
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Message from leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans) ([Leica] OT Sensor rot)