Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/06/05

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Subject: [Leica] eBay scam?
From: philippe.amard at (Philippe)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 00:24:09 +0200
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I recently sold a lot of stuff, some of it went to Asia and I had to ask one 
of my Chinese students to write the addresses ? the same problem might occur 
with Russian.

OTT Ebay leaves the buyer a long time to claim their money back - and at 
least here, you can't withdraw the money from your pal account for month.

Hope this helps

Le 6 juin 2015 ? 00:06, Douglas Barry <imra at> a ?crit :

> To be fair to eBay, I've never had a problem with it and I've even sold to 
> the US. You must stipulate PayPal, and do the transaction through eBay. As 
> mentioned by someone else, make sure that the buyer is responsible for 
> return costs.
> Douglas
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Ritter" <hlritter at>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at>
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 2:25 PM
> Subject: [Leica] eBay scam?
>> Hello all?
>> Sorry for being a bit OT, but I'm hoping to make use of the group?s 
>> experiences.
>> I have an item (not photographic) listed on eBay. I just received an 
>> inquiry from a person in Moscow claiming that he wants to buy the item at 
>> the Buy It Now price, which I would be very happy to get, and wants to 
>> know how much it would cost to ship it to Moscow. And no, he did not 
>> offer to go outside of eBay and send me a bank check for more than the 
>> purchase price and ask for the remainder in cash! There was no mention of 
>> anything irregular, just the inquiry about shipping costs.
>> I have no prior experience with selling on eBay. I do realize there are 
>> all sorts of scams run through the site, but I believe the situation has 
>> improved since they began requiring all payments to be made thru PayPal. 
>> My question is: It seems to me that if a seller ships only after 
>> receiving payment thru PayPal, he is insulated from being defrauded?but 
>> can PayPal claw back a payment to an eBay seller if the buyer?s payment 
>> turns out to be fraudulent? Does PayPal, which presumably vets the 
>> buyer?s form of payment and has his money securely in hand before paying 
>> the seller, assume the loss if later turns out that the buyer somehow 
>> defaulted or scammed PayPal? PayPay presumably is pretty sophisticated 
>> and exercises due diligence?is it even possible to scam them?
>> Are there any other dangers involved in this type of transaction? For 
>> example, what would happen if Russian Customs refuses to allow entry of 
>> an item, or the buyer backs out when he finds the import duty excessive?
>> Thanks for your advice,
>> ?howard
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