Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Common sense is also a big deal with dealing with new technologies. On 5/15/15 12:38 PM, "Piers Hemy" <piers.hemy at gmail.com> wrote: > You want examples? I'll give you two from direct personal experience - they > may not be what you thought you were asking for, but they make the same > point. 1) All files I saved in .STN format. Did you say "What the dickens > is that?" -it's the format used by Genuine Fractals, which I am sure > you remember, now subsumed into OnOne Perfect Resize, currently at v9. To > quote OnOne "The only way to open STiNG files is via Adobe Photoshop if > Perfect Resize 7.5 or earlier is installed". Doesn't matter if the bits > are corrupted or not, the format has been abandoned. 2) All files I backed up > to a so-called online backup system nearly 20 years ago. They went through two > acquisitions, and the new proprietors felt there was better business to be > done elsewhere. Service was simply terminated, as if they had gone out of > business (they may yet do so, of course). Doesn't matter if the bits are > corrupted or not, again. And a third of which I have no personal experience, > simply technical press articles this week. Look out if you use SSDs for > backup, as 1s magically can become 0s, as Spencer rightly says. You have to > keep 'em cool. Piers -----Original Message----- From: LUG > [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Rabiner Sent: 15 May 2015 06:22 To: Leica Users Group Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: > ?) Re: So much for "film is forever".. Importance: Low I think the fact that > while most of us have switched to digital our body of work is now (roughly > since the year 2000) is in danger is very on topic as I think its big news > where can I sell my digital bodies and re buy back my film ones?!? I'd like > to hear a roll count on the LUG of people whose old digital files have given > up on them or have gotten all wonky. Other side known as digital fading. I'm > being told by you that my digital files are deteriorating I JUST CAN > SEE IT.!! I don't think when you back up digitally to do it redundantly is > the end of the world. I used to back up my whole hard disk with floppies. A > stack of them many inches thick. And I had several sets of them in case one of > them was bad and for other reasons. It was an automatic process but > doable. Now its just copying one hard disk to another sometimes a slightly > bigger one. Can be done in ones sleep. On 5/14/15 7:16 PM, "Spencer Cheng" > <spencer at aotera.org> wrote: > We are going way off topic here so this is my > last comment. I did not say to > store your digital media using microfiche. > > > I am aware of a group of digital archivist (including someone from NIST) > > working on how to preserve digital media in a standardized fashion. > > Best > practice digital media preservation currently require regular active > copying > and indefinite transcription of digital media to protect again > deterioration > of storage media and format obsolescence. > > If you are not doing both, your > stored media is likely to stay ephemeral > despite of what you believe. > > > Mark, do as you wish but 1?s magically becomes 0?s in digital media whether > > you believe it?s going to happen or not. Good Luck. > > Regards, > Spencer > > >> On May 14, 2015, at 16:17, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> > >> From the Library of Congress (USA) >> "Does the Library of Congress > recommend microfilming or digitization for >> reformatting institutional > collections?.... >> >> " That said, the end of microfilming is near, despite > it's relatively low >> cost and the several hundred year projected lifetime of > preservation film. >> The National Endowment for the Humanities no longer > funds grants for >> microfilming and microfilm readers are increasingly > difficult to maintain >> and service." >> >> > http://www.loc.gov/preservation/about/faqs/reformatting.html#prescopy >> >> > Recognizing Digitization as a Preservation Reformatting Method >> > http://chnm.gmu.edu/digitalhistory/links/pdf/preserving/8_34a.pdf >> >> >> > >> >> On 5/14/15 1:17 AM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote: >> > >>> Canadian Archive uses microfiche which are stable for 100+ years (or >>> > acid-free >>> paper for documents). The Canadian census was stored that way. > ?was? because >>> I >>> am not sure we have a real census any more. >> >> > Digital storage is very >>> ephemeral. I doubt if most digital storage will > last more than 10 years. >>> Those >>> 1?s randomly change to 0?s far too > frequently. I don?t think archivist like >>> digital media very much. >>> >> > >> Regards, >> Spencer >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> Leica >>> Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>> information >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark > William > Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ __________ > _____________________________________ Leica Users Group. See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information _______________________________________________ Leica Users > Group. 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