Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/21

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Subject: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:22:45 -0400

More people should see the video  I saw in San Francisco of HCB shooting in
a crowd with a screw mount.  I cant find it on Utube. He was shooting a
picture every two seconds and winding to the next from with a quick flip of
his thumb on the wheel. I tell the rapid advance lever first on the M3 which
at first a double stroke would have done nothing but slow him down.
I'm saying this because of the  supposed "decisive moment" thing that you
wait for.
HCB was not waiting for nothing. He was shooting everything that moved and a
few that were not. He was working it and covering it.
Some people on this list call this a mindless shotgun approach.
And it belies how photographers have always worked. Especially since roll
film. And perhaps even more especially since digital.

People think that film makes us better more contemplative people. And the
decisive moment thing especially.
Well it didn't. Its double speak and weasel words.

But If there's anything dumber than shooting one picture  and walking away
with a digital camera with 600 pix in the memory card I cant think of what
it is.
That's not capturing an image its making it go away.
Been there done that.


On 3/21/15 1:31 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank God there are professional photographers on the list who know what it
> means to have to come up with photos to pay the bills.
> 
> Thanks, Ted, for understanding.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> John McMaster OFFERED:
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
>> 
>>>>> I have wondered that, I cannot imagine taking 16K shots in a few weeks
>> without binning the vast majority (no good or repeats). I am a sparse
>> shooter (not sure if I have taken more than 200 shots in a day) but with
>> what I regard as a high success rate.....<<<<<<<<<<<
>> 
>> JOHN MON AMI,
>> Don't become a documentary photographer and have a "WHEAT HARVESTING
>> ASSIGNMENT!" That's everything LIFE to DEATH" OF A MONTH OR TWO on the
>> ground, in the air shooting aerials! The day is usually pre-sunrise until
>> moon is up.............EVERYDAY! Ok so maybe a couple, you sleep in until
>> 5.30 a.m.! :-)
>> 
>> One never ever thinks about how many frames simply because you are
>> recording
>> a "PHOTO ESSAY" covering everything that occurs lives/dies during the 
>> month
>> or two!
>> 
>> That includes the "field mice or gophers to filling the tractor fuel tanks
>> to the farmer's wife making/baking the meals.............. To tell and 
>> show
>> "THE HARVESTING FARMERS LIFE CORRECTLY IS TO SHOOT EVERYTHING FROM BIRTH 
>> TO
>> DEATH!" Every single moment while you are on the assignment. And the LIFE
>> of
>> the DAY IS IN MOTION!
>> 
>> The number of frames doesn't matter as long as you completely have your
>> "ASS
>> COVERED" in showing the complete story.  Oh sure once in awhile you may 
>> not
>> shoot a frame........... PROVIDING YOU ALREADY HAVE A SMASHING GREAT
>> SIMILAR
>> BEAUTY TAKEN AND BACKED-UP ON ANOTHER DRIVE, WHATEVER? Even then? If you
>> are
>> motivated to "jeeeeesssshhh look at that?" FOR HEAVAN SAKE "SHOOT IT!" A
>> "maybe similar looking image? But what the heck "SO WHAT?" Better to have
>> it
>> in the can than find out later the back-up drive failed! :-(
>> 
>> If one is on holiday or work there's no such thing as......... "DON'T TAKE
>> TOO MANY!" If you have camera in hand and you are scene motivated? "SHOOT
>> IT!"
>> Don't shoot too many? jeeeeeesh!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted :-)
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Steve Barbour
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 4:20 p.m.
>> To: Leica LUG
>> Subject: [Leica] Shoot less... ?
>> 
>> Tina, a number of Luggers have suggested somehow showing less, ie being
>> selective....
>> 
>> Is it not true that this suggestion applies to shooting ?
>> 
>> 
>> steve
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Steve Barbour
>> 
>> 
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