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Subject: [Leica] Highly Intelligent Crop Factor Overview
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:48:55 -0600
References: <0NHM00A3HCK8RL70@st11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com>

Again, Chris, I have no problemo with native lenses on any format.  I'd be
happy with the Fuji, I think, if I had gone that route.

The 9 gazillion ISO and quiet shutter of the Sony have made a huge
difference in my ability to get the images I want, no matter the light.

For my money, that's the only reason to change gear.


On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM, zoeica at mac.com <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:

> Here's my issue with full vs crop on the mirrorless cameras. Sure I would
> love the Sony 9gazillion high iso BUT Sony is too limited on lenses. F/4
> Zeiss? WTF dudes? Yes I know I can put Leica lenses on it however there's
> no freaking way I'm gonna try a focus a manual 90mm or 135mm lens while
> someone is moving around like crazy. I just can't do that for a job. IMO
> Sony needs to get the ball rolling on some pro lenses without having to buy
> some expensive AF adapter to use other lens brands.
>
> Fuji's F/ 1.2, 1.4 lenses and now finally (ahhhhhh the light has been let
> in) the amaze balls 50-140/2.8 IOS. Holly freaking Nikon lenses that sucker
> is fast and sharp. And it's just as good or perhaps better than my Nikkor
> 70-200 /2.8 VRII. And it's smaller and lighter!! Dare we even get into how
> freaking on target Fuji's color is or the fact that the electronic XT1
> shutter goes to 32,000!
>
> End rant.
>
>
>
> Chris Williams
> www.zoeicaimages.net
> 504-231-6261
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Highly Intelligent Crop Factor Overview
> Date: Sat, Jan 3, 2015 3:16 PM
>
> I talked to my dealer about my findings with the X-T1, if I was coming
> from APS-C Canikon then I would have been very happy with it, it did not do
> much wrong and is small/light. However I have M(240) and a few M lenses and
> the Fuji is reasonable but not up the level of Leica (subtlety, fine detail
> and colour), if I did not have that comparison then things may have been
> different. It also depends on what you shoot, f8 and there would be less
> difference but the way I tend to shoot there is still a significant gap
> between the images produced, but the difference would be reduced in web
> jpegs or most printing...
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Agree with both, that really is the issue, I think, with 35mm shooters who
> have been around photography awhile and have collected a boat load of
> lenses. The 1.5 crop factor sensor state of the art seems to be otherwise
> sufficient for a lot shooters, including many who make their living at it.
>
> Montie
>
> >>I'm with you, Sonny. As I keep saying, my main reason for wanting to
> upgrade from my M8 to a full-frame digital Leica is so that I can use my
> 50mm lenses as 50s again.  I'm waiting for some sense of how the M9-family
> sensor delamination issue shakes out in real life before I make the leap.
>
> --Peter
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Everything he says is OK, except for me the issue about "full frame"
> > is that I have this drawerful of lenses designed for that format.
> >
> > I was unhappy using Leica lenses on 4/3, m4/3, and the Leica M8
> > because (for example) my summicron 35 was no longer the same animal.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I was perfectly happy shooting my olympus m4/3
> > with native lenses; loved the little camera, in fact.  Same with the
> > apc Pentax Kr with those great primes.
> >
> > When I swapped the M8 for the M9, I was back home, and now have
> > supplemented that with the A7s, so I'm happily shooting with lenses I
> > haven't used in years.
> >
> > Sorry, don't ask me to test, I just put the lens on the camera and go
> > see what I can do with it,  if I like it, you'll get to see it, I
> promise.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Jan 1, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY
> > >
> > > Montie
>
>
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Sonny
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