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Subject: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 18:47:44 -0500
References: <CA+yJO1DW5hy5yg4-hp3JdOxL8YEozt1dCWZ+NV8txgVsmsxJ6w@mail.gmail.com> <D0A3B796.2D4D0%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CA+yJO1CQ2yb5LD-=wofU1jKWRvwVAHHDdJgLKcmv4sT9NeY7WQ@mail.gmail.com> <22100706-1421-4556-A822-D6E3AD853648@gmail.com>

The only connection that Photoshop CC has to the cloud is that it connects
occasionally to confirm your subscription and to download upgrades.  It is
not connected all the time.  You do not have to have a connection to the
internet to use it.  Nothing is stored on the cloud unless you request it
to be.  All of my files are stored on my external hard drives.  The program
resides in my computer, just like Photoshop 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.  I cannot
understand the reluctance to upgrade to this most efficient and productive
version of PS.

Tina

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I?m not in the Cloud, I use LR5 for
> the scanned negatives only, my usual software is Capture One 8Pro, I?m used
> to it and very happy.
>
> Cheers
> Lluis
>
> El 03/12/2014, a las 00:39, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> escribi?:
>
> > Yes, I have the same knife. Love Wusthof knives!!
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Me too!
> >>
> >> Though I always slice my own bread... With a W?sthof 23 cm bread knife
> from
> >> sunny Germany. Goes through bread like butter!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/2/14 3:18 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think Photoshop CC is the best thing since sliced bread!  I
> subscribed
> >>> immediately and don't regret it.
> >>>
> >>> Tina
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
> >>> gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Eh? You can use or not use any early version or the latest of
> Lightroom
> >> for
> >>>> which you have a perpetual licence for as long as you want under the
> >>>> licence conditions that have applied from the very first.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no obligation to move to the subscription model for
> Lightroom.
> >>>> If you use both Lightroom and Photoshop in working with your images
> then
> >>>> you can get that bundle if you want. Basically a 12 month commitment
> to
> >>>> start.
> >>>>
> >>>> For me, that deal is excellent value. So much so that I don't even use
> >> the
> >>>> couple of perpetual licence models I have of both Lightroom and
> >> Photoshop.
> >>>> I really like the integration and the immediate availability of the
> new
> >>>> features
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously how much you use the programs will influence their value to
> >> you.
> >>>> Or if you consider Adobe (and Microsoft I suppose) as devils incarnate
> >>>> determined to feast on your soul!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Geoff
> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2 December 2014 at 21:00, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My copy of LR is 1.1 or something and my version of PSE is 4, but my
> >> old
> >>>>> Dell pc is 2005, and works too. I'm upgrading the pc when I move
> house
> >>>> in a
> >>>>> couple of weeks, but at 10 dollars a month and initial costs, it
> looks
> >>>> like
> >>>>> a future haemorrhage of money from me to Adobe for little real
> benefit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Douglas
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <
> >>>> hopsternew at gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:24 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can continue with the perpetual licence arrangement as always if
> >> you
> >>>>>> wish.
> >>>>>> Note that the current version is 5.7.
> >>>>>> As has been the case the point updates are free. Once LR6 arrives,
> >>>>>> whenever
> >>>>>> it does, you will need to pay for the upgrade. Of course if you buy
> >>>>>> something Leica new they will include a copy ;-) ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here the subscription model with Photoshop CC here costs annually
> >> $10, a
> >>>>>> new copy $175 and an upgrade $100.
> >>>>>> Those are very compelling numbers for me even without Photoshop but
> I
> >>>>>> haven't convinced you have I Nathan? ;-) ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Geoff
> >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 18:11, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> >>>>>> frozenlight.eu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to all who responded. It is clear that I need to upgrade to
> >> LR5,
> >>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>> I will bite the bullet and do so. As long as I am not forced in
> >> Adobe's
> >>>>>>> cloud service, it is OK.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 02 Dec 2014, at 07:26, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I just discovered that my Lightroom 4.4 does not recognise the
> Fuji
> >>>
> >>>>>>> XT-1
> >>>>>>> files. Poking around Adobe's sites I see no upgrade that would let
> me
> >>>>>>> read
> >>>>>>> those files directly into LR. So I am right now converting to DNG
> >> using
> >>>>>>> their converter and will then import those.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are my choices really limited to using this clunky 2-step process
> >> and
> >>>>>>> upgrading to LR5, something which I otherwise have no reason to do?
> >>>> (and
> >>>>>>> no, I am not interested in other RAW converters or in shooting
> JPG).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> >>>>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >> Photographer
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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