Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I agree the live view on the 240 is not good for me for casual images (grand kids, walking around). Good enough for still images, but not really needed. Great for R, movies (I guess). I find the rangefinder to continue to be accurate on my noctilux, 50/1.4, and 70/2. The 240 range finder focusing is much more solid and reliable than the M9. It is pretty amazing to still be in perfect alignment after a year 1/2 of my abuse. Wide open close distance on any of my M lenses hand held is a crap shoot (or worse). Always was. Just my caffeine shakes make the odds worse. I tend to move my head to focus. I don't think even the best EVF/e-shutter system would improve anything. On the 240 at ISO 2000 and f/1, 1.4, or 2 my shutter speed in near dark is high enough. And the images are very special IMO. But I am fortunate in having working income. And I hope it lasts 20 years. Because I won't be able to ever afford another one. I do see the strong appeal of a less expensive, extremely capable system. The 240 however is a very different animal than the 9 and keeps my mind in Leica mode... FWIW Bob Adler > On Nov 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > The Leica Live View solution was a deal breaker for me when it was cheap on > the Olympus, and it remains a deal breaker for me when it is expensive on > the Leica. When Leica changes their tune and makes a decent viewfinder > that isn't cobbled together, I may change my tune too. > > I'm no troll, Mr. Nikon shooter. I still have one M9 and three film > Leicas and a pile of lenses that I can and will use with my Leicas and my > full-frame Sony. > >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >> Its basically a troll. >> Its pretty obvious people on a Leica named User list are going to have a >> clue as to what a premium product is and what that can do for your work. >> Other options come with a many work arounds. And are basically here today >> gone tomorrow deals. They are not premium products which are going to be >> used by many for serious work. >> A statement that the M 250 is an outdated outmoded camera is certainly a >> way >> out rationalization for buying a mirrorless camera. Stating it's a Leica >> is >> a smug troll. Basically flipping off Leicas and Leica use. >> I think your new Sony Mirrorless is a new Sony Mirrorless. >> Its a far cry from a Leica M on a slew of levels. >> >> I belive the M's coming out now are a complete and most excellent >> realization of digital for Leica. With no apologies needed. No caveats No >> problems other than high cost.. For sure worth the money if the money can >> be >> obtained. >> >> >> On 11/2/14 12:21 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at icloud.com> >> wrote: >> >>> absolutely not Sonny. The whole "my next Leica will be a 'not leica'" is >> so >>> far removed from lofty 'visions' that any and all silly subjects will >>> certainly work? my next Leica camera will be a Bolex? my next Leica lens >> will >>> be a 300 mm Super Symmar? which I'll mount on my next Leica camera? >> which will >>> be Phase One ;~) >> >> a note off the iPad, George >> >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:43 AM, >>> Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, I'm living with a two year >>> old for the week, do you expect lofty >>> visions all the time? >>> ;-) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://sonc.com/look/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > 1714 > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information