Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]And then there is a mind set which feels an M does not belong shooting in front of a white backdrop. Cameras can get put in little subsets of their true capabilities. On 7/20/14 5:17 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > Well you can I guess Mark and some people do. I don't want to carry a pro > size Nikon or Canon or anything else around the street personally. > But I have the M and great lenses anyway. > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 21 July 2014 05:55, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> I don't understand why you cant walk around shooting with an S2 its the >> same >> form follow function footprint basic size and shape and weight as a Canon >> or >> Nikon DSLR you could black tape the red dot and no one would be the >> wiser.. >> You'd not make a S outa yourself... I would also shoot the camera with all >> the auto controls I'm used to shooting with with my DSLR'S. Which is all >> of >> them. There is simply no reason not to. The film is bigger. That's all. >> Oops >> >> I have thought of medium format being all about manual controll I started >> out with Rollei and Hasselblad in the 70's but when the 645's hit, the >> Mamiya 's and Pentaxes and Bronica'a came in in the 80's with full >> exposure >> modes and then auto focus nobody turned them off to emulate shooting with >> a >> Hasselblad. >> But they didn't necessarily out shoot us either. >> Us being die hard Hasselblad shooters. >> >> >> On 7/20/14 12:01 AM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Every frame that I will shoot with it outside will be in manual focus >>> though. That is the way that it is generally done in the medium format >>> world, in my part of it anyway, learning from Hasselblad and Phase One >>> using professionals. Yes it does lock extremely quickly in the well lit >>> studio if that helps. I haven't tried it in low light at this stage where >>> mt D600 would typically hunt around and struggle. >>> >>> It's hardly a walkaround camera though, or rather you need to be >> dedicated >>> to do that. Its the wrong tool for travel for example in my opinion. >>> My studio stuff well stopped down won't tell you anything about focus >>> accuracy. >>> >>> Outside especially at big apertures, in closer at least, I would >> typically >>> be looking to focus manually on the catchlight of the nearest eye. >>> Eyelashes are not good enough (focussed manually or AF) >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> >>> On 20 July 2014 13:54, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Geoff, >>>> Not a contest, just increasing my personal knowledge on how it might >>>> be useful to me. I am practical on my approach to kit, if I find >>>> something that will work for me, I would buy it. As the S2 has >>>> autofocus, it comes squarely into my usable zone. That is all the >>>> information I was after. >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at >>>> gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Jayanand, from my perspective this isn't a contest with John and I >> trying >>>>> to make you want to buy a Leica Pro format camera. Nor do either of us >>>> feel >>>>> the need to justify why we are thrilled to have these for ourselves. >>>>> >>>>> Having said that there is a large difference in the output. Whether or >>>> not >>>>> that matters to you or anyone else for different output purposes or the >>>>> large cost is justified of course is entirely up to the individual >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Geoff >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 20 July 2014 13:35, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John, >>>>>> That print size does not tax any DSLRs or Mirrorless sensors that I >>>>>> have used in the last 5 years, either, including Micro 4/3 - and I >>>>>> print a lot for print exchanges, in which I regularly (month in, month >>>>>> out) have been taking part for the best part of a decade. If it does >>>>>> not tax the M 240, why did you buy the S2 as well? Just curious to >>>>>> know where medium format output is truly useful, and where it fits in >>>>>> for hobbyist photographers like me. >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, John McMaster <john at >>>>>> mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> 12"x18" doesn't really tax the M either... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> john >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jayanand you'll need a large print to appreciate. 12x18 in ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 July 2014 13:08, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any S2 owner on the list interested in doing an one on one print >>>>>>>> exchange with me? I would really like to see the output in print! >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:32 AM, John McMaster <john at >>>>>>>> mcmaster.co.nz >>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hardly surprising with a 1024 pixel JPEG ;-) Believe me there is a >>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>> difference when you see shots side by side... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> john >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jayanand Govindaraj >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Geoff, >>>>>>>>> Very interesting, very well lit. I personally cannot make out which >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> out of the S2 and which are out of the M 240! :-) Cheers Jayanand >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Geoff Hopkinson >>>>>>>>> <hopsternew at gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I've started this gallery with a series of portraits, mixed work >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> S2 and M (typ 240) There is zero retouching, just a very lovely >>>>>>>>>> model well prepared for camera and some beautiful studio lighting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/cd >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/