Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/01

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Subject: [Leica] Firmware M240
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:40:00 +1000
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We may all be looking from differing perspectives and with different needs
too.
Depth of field is a BIG variable as well. In the studio I might typically
set f/9 and it will still be on that four hours later. That is different
for lower light wider open applications (maybe more typical for how some
people use their cameras?)

But on precision I think the RF is unbeatable (when camera and lens
properly calibrated and technique is good).
On catching fleeting moments with fast moving kids in lower light as with
Bob's example, I certainly follow his impressions there.
Also we are discussing using the M of course, other systems may well be
very different, but then if you put AF into the equation that is a whole
other conversation.


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 2 July 2014 13:16, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:02 PM, rgacpa at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Sorry. My experience says otherwise. I've had no luck, despite continued
> efforts at "anticipation", with live view on "action" (read grandson)
> photography. The shutter must close, then open and close again. Too much
> time in my experience.
>
>
> I must disagree with this Bob, it sure is better than having quick out of
> focus shots, that still require vague mechanical focussing and perfect
> mechanical camera/rangefinder  adjustment, even though camera action is
> faster.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>  Fortunately I adore the rangefinder aspect, as I always have. The live
> view is a very nice added feature, but not for "decisive moment" images for
> me... And it doubles the shutter actuation count...
> >
> > Best,
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anticipation is the keyword - not different from Ted's Shakespearian
> precept: "the readiness is all".
> >> This unless the M is THAT slow on the move, which I hope it is not.
> >>
> >> Fujis X series are very reactive.
> >>
> >> DSLRs belong to a lower class; the mirror goes flip-flap, and the photo
> flop
> >>
> >> Amities
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>> Le 1 juil. 14 ? 18:23, Robert Adler a ?crit :
> >>>
> >>> Yes live view has it's place, but not in decisive moment shooting.
> Tried it
> >>> with my grandson and a dismal failure...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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