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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:32:44 -0400
References: <CA+yJO1Ckak6MUrS0HLW8e4aHDnE8O-m6fvTByyqQ899-_POJEQ@mail.gmail.com> <2408DAAB74724E9DA182E3C4FE70346F@Family> <CA+yJO1B+PJXwEOGqcwNoxPqxf9x+9H_tryp44Ro0b1m-Ca_HaQ@mail.gmail.com> <AE1436A4182F4F84BA93B52CB0506356@Family> <A43DD176-5888-4931-8ED3-BFFB0711CDBC@icloud.com> <CA+yJO1ALi0DZanv9CBYgLmPpMHitPBDKWuTOq8UrwhjZ8X1huQ@mail.gmail.com> <57A48E0A29444C85961CB79EA519B2A2@Family> <C0294E1366AB48258ED113E399DFE672@syneticfeba505>

Exactly, Ted!  Can I quote you on that ;-)

When I submit photos for stock, I have to check whether they have been
manipulated or not.  Here is what the rules say:

"Whilst many images may be altered to a certain degree, if the original
scene has been changed significantly we define it as digitally altered.
This includes adding, moving, or removing items and major changes to
saturation, contrast and levels. Essentially, a digitally altered image is
a distorted image of the original scene.

An image *should not* be classed as digitally altered if it has been
cropped, converted to black and white or if minor changes have been made to
levels and saturation.

Editorial customers (e.g. newspapers, magazines, book publishers) need to
know if an image has been altered such that it no longer has the exact
appearance of the original. Some customers need to be guaranteed a degree
of authenticity."

None of the photos I submit for editorial use have been digitally altered.
 Now for art prints, anything goes!

Tina


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Douglas mon ami,
>
> But that's cheating! If it were an advertisement and selling cars , boats
> etc. One can fiddle it any old way one wishes. Why? Well most advertising
> images are faked, changed, sun added, moon added, diver angle changed.?
> WHATEVER!!!!!
>
> However when I look at Tina's photos I only see and appreciate the beauty
> of a reality moment captured in true simple magic!
>
> WHY?
> Well Tina is an absolutely incredible, "PHOTOJOURNALIST!" And we
> photojournalist's don't cheat.... WELL WE DON'T! WELL? ;-) I'll never tell!
> :-) The advert guys and gals "are producing an image that isn't a captured
> real life moment. SO WHO CARES?"
>
> ERGO? Leave the image alone physically other than for a possible minimal
> tweak of colour or brightness. MAYBE?
>
> cheers,
> ted
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie>
>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>
>
>  Tina,
>> You could do sneaky, and shift the divers body down a tad to align all
>> four heads in the same plane, and ensure you align them with the corner of
>> the frame to boot. You'd have a gut stopping image then, but I don't know
>> how to do that manipulation, correct the resulting blanks left on the 
>> water
>> as a result, and make the whole thing look seamless.
>>
>> Life is complicated....
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>>
>>
>>  OK.  I'm posting two alternate crops:
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638567
>>>
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638571
>>>
>>> Which one?  Better than the original?  I have lots more of the boys
>>> swimming and diving, but this is the only one where he's perfectly upside
>>> down!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM, George Lottermoser <
>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Douglas Barry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Personally, I think it looks better and has better impact, Tina.
>>>> >
>>>> > Douglas
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" > <
>>>> images at comporium.net>
>>>> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:40 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> How is this?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155634895
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Compared to http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155633772
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the tighter crop
>>>> 1) has more impact
>>>> 2) makes it look "less dangerous"
>>>>
>>>> however, putting "diver" dead center
>>>> does not work for me.
>>>> I'd be searching for the tight yet asymmetrically balanced composition
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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-- 
Tina Manley
http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com


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