Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/05/07

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Subject: [Leica] shooting the M240
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 15:11:53 -0700
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On May 7, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve you understand why it is physically impossible for an R lens to work
> with the RF system?
> One small fix that may assist is that I know of some people who have
> attached a small 'bump' (a stick-on plastic hemispherical dot) to the
> activation button. That evidently makes it much more convenient to actuate.

That sounds like a useful improvement that will make it easier, I will look 
for one, but first I will ask you if you know where this is obtained?

s

> George, to address your question, I have no knowledge at all of what the
> next generation of Leica cameras may bring but I would guess that the T
> system may be a precursor. The track record is for newer
> capabilities/technology to be progressively implemented. For example the
> Maestro processor from the S incorporated into the M.
> Since this is entirely speculative discussion, I think that the M system
> will continue optimised for the M lenses above all else for as long as it
> is their most successful line. I don't think that there will ever be
> another based on manual focus lenses at all (but can't see why the lenses
> won't be usable with adapters). I will be unsurprised if the S System does
> not evolve to use one of the newest generation of CMOS sensors. I don't
> believe that there is any prospect of an R11 or 12 or whatever.
> 
> That is more than enough idle speculation and chitchat on the subject from
> me. I have 500 new frames from yesterday's shoot, another shoot in a few
> days, another competition one in 10 days, a remaining (unpaid) corporate
> job which has grown in complexity and demanding nature after the last two I
> just did and I haven't even finished editing some previous shoots from last
> September forward!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 8 May 2014 06:55, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve, so in that mode, you shouldn't need to start focus peaking working
>>> by pressing the button every time.
>>> An adapted lens is one where there is no helical movement to operate the
>>> roller/cam RF system. For example if you used an R adapter. I should have
>>> been clearer though. I mean that it won't work automatically. You will
>> need
>>> to press the button to start it.
>> 
>> exactly, M lenses will work as you say, but R lenses require the button be
>> pushed each time....
>> 
>> ***it is rather sad that R lenses even with Leica's own adapter, R to M,
>> will not operate like M lenses, and the fine Oly VF4 EVF apparantly will
>> not be functional like the Oly VF2.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> As far as I know the VF4 won't work due to bandwidth limitations (how
>> much
>>> data can be processed). That is only a guess though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 May 2014 06:31, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I shall have to have a play as I have very seldom used focus peaking
>>>> since
>>>>> initially experimenting. Off the top of my head  when set to automatic
>> it
>>>>> should start working as soon as you move the focus ring.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> yes
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> That will not work
>>>>> on adapted lenses though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> what is an adapted lens?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I am aware the VF4 is not going to be compatible when we get
>>>> the
>>>>> next firmware. The very impressive Visoflex unit for the T definitely
>>>>> cannot be used on the M.  In that instance there is no alternative
>>>> Olympus
>>>>> branded version either of course.
>>>> 
>>>> The VF2 works, why not  get the VF4 working as well, as it's a much
>> better
>>>> viewfinder?
>>>> 
>>>> thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 May 2014 05:56, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure what the issue is? If (you and) the subject has not moved it
>>>> will
>>>>>> still be in focus, if not then you need to re-focus in which case the
>>>>>> magnification will cut in....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using the M240 in advanced mode (EVF 4) with focus peaking in
>> red.
>>>>>> Coming to terms with the controls and the menu, for the shooting I
>> want
>>>> to
>>>>>> do, I have a question remaining re the focus peaking setup. It seems
>>>> that I
>>>>>> must reset the camera controls for each photo, which begins with
>>>> depressing
>>>>>> the button upper right front.  Is there some way to program the camera
>>>> to
>>>>>> repetitively shoot in this way, ie avoiding a reset for each shot ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The images I obtain are terrific, well focussed, with almost a perfect
>>>> hit
>>>>>> rate, even with the lens wide open,  but too much time is required to
>>>> reset
>>>>>> the camera, for each and every shot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks for your ongoing assistance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Replies: Reply from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] shooting the M240)
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