Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]In order to appeal to most shooters willing to plunk down that kind of money, I think that the normal lens would have to be at least f/2.0. Leica?s last film-bade P&S was more like a 40/2.4 Summarit. One of the big advantages Zeiss has over Leica is that their comparable optics (50/2 or 35/2) are orders of magnitude apart in cost. Jeffery On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jim Laurel (gmail) <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote: > It seems like a good idea would be to come up with a trio of compacts > along the lines of the RX-1. Full frame, and each with a separate fixed > focal length lens. Say, a 21, 35 and 50mm. Sell them for around $3k each. > Sensor dust would be a thing of the past. We usually carry at least 2 > bodies anyway. > > > On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> Well if they did really do a direct confrontation on the full frame >> compact >> Sony RX1 they'd be doing a camera which has a build in lens and not >> interechangble ones which would be a bit of a gem. Hence less of a market >> grabber from the M with interchangeable cash register dings. >> The Sony has a fixed Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm F2 which certainly >> dominates >> the camera as it appears a bit too big for it; really ruining its >> pocketablility.. But with quality to make it worth it. >> Leica would likely not make the mistake of ruining the pocketability with >> an >> oversize lens. It would make a 35 Summicron of a much more compact design. >> If they asked me I'd tell them to give the Rollei 35 a nod with a >> collapsible 40 Elmar. Also a Barnack basic design element. >> If they were super smart they'd make the thing look like a slightly scaled >> down Barnack; a slightly scaled down very early Leica body. >> But I can see them wanting to one up Zeiss with a Summilux 1.4. They can >> be >> just as compact. And there is a long history of Leitz - Zeiss speed one >> upping. I'd tell them to put a 3.5 Elmar on it and make it all about >> pocketability as its full frame it could be shot at 64,000 easy so >> optical; >> speed really is not such a big deal. Weight and size is. >> >> A digital Leica Standard (1933) would outclass everything and everybody. >> They'd all just have to go home. And sulk. >> >> >> On 3/7/14 11:33 PM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> "Eyes are 0n Leica now to come out with its answer to the Sony RX1 full >>> frame >>> compact. Not stupidly dumb itself down." >>> >>> Mark, any idea of which lens they would use for something like this? >>> Leica >>> glass is getting insanely pricey, but would they dare using a >>> Japanese-made >>> "Leica" lens? >>> >>> Jeffery >>> >>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "bringing Leica back to the 4/3." kinda sounds like Leica used to make a >>>> 4/3's camera, and now its coming back home.. Not the case. It's made a >>>> couple of 4/3's lenes for other companies cameras. >>>> Leica now is making compact 1.5 crop cameras. If there is a reason why >>>> it >>>> should go 4/3's as if its a fad it has a prerogative to join in on I'd >>>> like >>>> to know what it is. As is its a company whose mission has always been >>>> making >>>> a quality product and senselessly cutting its compact format in half >>>> does >>>> not add up. >>>> Eyes are 0n Leica now to come out with its answer to the Sony RX1 full >>>> frame >>>> compact. Not stupidly dumb itself down. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/6/14 3:06 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com >>>> <javascript:;>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wanna bet Ken ;-) ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Geoff >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7 March 2014 05:58, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com <javascript:;>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My guess is that it will be a cosmetically enhanced version of the >>>>>> Panasonic DMC-GX7, at $500 more, bringing Leica back to the 4/3. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jim Laurel (gmail) >>>>>> <jplaurel at gmail.com<javascript:;> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just for fun, who would like to speculate on what Leica will announce >>>> on >>>>>>> April 24? Will it be the fabled Leica T (typ 701)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I had a seat at the conference table, here's what I would I would >>>>>>> propose: >>>>>>> -- A modified M mount that supports autofocus. The "Leica M-AF" >>>>>>> mount. >>>>>>> -- Re-tool X-Vario to accept these new lenses. This APS-C camera will >>>> be >>>>>>> the initial offering. This new camera body can read the 6-bit coding >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> current M mount lenses. >>>>>>> -- Release a set of primes with moderate aperture but superlative IQ >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> classical focal length equivalents: 35, 50, 28 and 90mm, in that >>>>>>> order. >>>>>>> M-AF lenses actually project an image circle sufficient for APS-H. >>>>>>> -- Customers who want wider, longer or faster can use traditional M >>>> mount >>>>>>> lenses >>>>>>> -- Firmware update for M240 to use the new lenses in crop mode. >>>>>>> -- Next cycle, release the APS-H body with integrated EVF in the >>>>>>> traditional position (far left) >>>>>>> -- Sell body and prime of your choice as a kit. Your choice of an >>>>>>> M-AF >>>>>>> prime for the same price. M-AF body and one prime priced between M240 >>>>>>> (body) and X-Vario. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ken Iisaka >>>>>> first name at last name dot org or com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photographer >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information