Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On the other hand Ted's been a guy who has walked around with a Noctilux on his camera year after year while most the other Leica guys used a Summicron or Summilux costing and weighting much less and being much more compact. He must have thought it brought something to his work to make it worth it. And a glace at his work in particular his pix in the operating rooms shows it. On 12/31/13 4:04 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > Unless someone actually posts pictures to illustrate these opinions, you > guys are all going to be in so much trouble if Dr Ted sees this thread. > ;-) > I know that Tina and Ted are masters of these lenses wide open. Let's see > your stuff. > > I just stopped the (borrowed) thing down because that was the light I had > and the DoF I wanted too. > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153201969 > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153260573 > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 1 January 2014 06:55, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > >> The difference between the DOF of a 50/1.4 and 50/1.0 lens is actually >> pretty minimal. >> >> Both are hard to nail critical focus, especially close in. With the EVF of >> the M or Sony or Fuji, the issues of focus are remarkably reduced. >> >> The real difference between the various (age) 50's is the fingerprint of >> the lens, weight, and cost. >> >> If you are not in favor of weight around your neck, then all 3 Noctis fall >> off the list, closely followed by the ASPH Lux. The lightest is the more >> recent (black) Summicron. >> >> If you can not afford $3-10k for the lens, then the choice boils down to a >> Summicron. >> >> Fingerprint is so subjective. But for pure unmitigated sharpness, the ASPH >> Lux is the clear winner. >> >> I am (almost) down to only the ASPH Lux. And have no regrets. Absolutely >> great lens. >> >> Frank Filippone >> >>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> No matter what you do with a sensor, a 1.0ish lens shooting wide open >> cannot be duplicated with a 1.4. Even just from a depth of field stand >> point, let alone the other characteristics of using such a fast lens wide >> open. So, if that is what you want it is indeed necessary. >>> >>> Aram, who owned a 1.2 lens at one time but could no longer focus with it. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man >>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:07 PM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux >>> >>> I think with the modern digital sensors and cameras, very few lens are >>> truly "necessary," and most are a matter of "wants." Nothing wrong with >>> that since I succumb to gear lust myself, but the world's best pictures >> are >>> seldom taken by the world's most expensive and best lens. >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Wulff <hjwulff at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> The 0.95 is as good as it gets at high speed, with the well understood >>>> downsides of price and size. At smaller apertures the pictures are hard >> to >>>> distinguish from Summilux-ASPH pictures, but the large size and price >>>> remain. Focus shift exists but is quite manageable. It is the only one >> of >>>> the three that can be considered an all in one lens, if you can live >> with >>>> the size. This lens, like the other Nocti's focusses down to only 1m, >> which >>>> is a distinct limitation in comparison to the slower current 50's and >> in my >>>> opinion its main operational failing. >>>> >>>> The f/1 is of much lower contrast at wider apertures, but also sharpens >> up >>>> nicely with the downside of considerable focus shift. It has incredible >>>> flare tolerance which allows it to capture images that no other lens >> seems >>>> capable of. A lens shade is largely pointless. This is a lens that is >> not >>>> easy to master and renders in a unique way, but the rewards are great. >> Our >>>> Dr. Ted did most of his medical photography for his books with this >> lens, >>>> and mostly at f/1. True mastery! >>>> >>>> The f/1.2 is pointless unless you plan on placing it in an honorary >>>> position in your collection. Current prices are exorbitant, and it is >> not >>>> as good a lens overall as the f/1 while being slower. It is a much >> softer >>>> version of the old Summilux 50. The Nokton f/1.1 is definitely a better >>>> lens overall. >>>> >>>> If you have the Summilux ASPH and an M240, the 0.95 is not as necessary >> as >>>> it was with the M9, but it of course still allows a little but lower >> light >>>> subjects to be recorded successfully (as long as they are at least one >>>> meter away) with shallower dof, but the f/1 will allow a different >> vision, >>>> if you are willing and able to master it. >>>> >>>> I used to have an f/1.2, have used the f/0.95 and the Nokton f/1.1 and >>>> currently have the f/1 and the Summilux ASPH. >>>> >>>> Henning >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-12-30, at 9:30 PM, David Ching <davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Emanuel, >>>>> >>>>> The Noct f0.95 is surely superior in some ways to the Lux 50 ASPH or >> the >>>> Voightlander Nokton f1.1 of the later two which I have. >>>>> How would you rate the 3 Noct versions , f0.95, f1.0 and f1.2? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David Ching >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Henning Wulff >>>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/