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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Ruby, Color and B&W
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:47:30 -0500
References: <CA+yJO1DUxbXT8xB_kpb4hiCcNKdwiTVdCZUzq7rtxoX+SPuFqw@mail.gmail.com> <9BA2723AE9084250801AC892A298A881@syneticfeba505>

Thank you, dear Ted!  I knew I could count on you for a comment ;-)  I
agree with everything you said and appreciate your putting it into words
for me.

What are you doing up at 2 in the morning???!!!

LOL

Tina


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:06 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Tina Manley SHOWED & SAID:
> Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Ruby, Color and B&W
>
>
>
>  Only one comment on the B&W Ruby so I'm posting the color one, too.   Two
>> cameras, two lenses, two films:
>>
>> B&W:  http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/153623647
>>
>> Color:  http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/153633093
>>
>> Both M6's, one 35 Summilux with TMax 400, one Noctilux with Fuji Provia
>> 400.
>>
>
> Hi Tina,
> And dear lady where we members missed out in creating wonderful dialogue
> with a picture situation as you've shown! A very powerful photo of the
> climate in the USA in some areas of life.
>
> I'm not claiming any whining reason why I didn't answer earlier.. it just
> happened when receiving close to over a hundred or more e-mails "PER DAY!"
> Whew.:-(
>
> In any event you've thrown down the gauntlet I feel. My comment! :-)
>
> The black & white is the power photo! WHY?
> Well quite simply, there isn't any colour to distract from this very
> unfortunate lady's living situation. You also have a larger scene enhancing
> the size of her day to day "bed location surroundings!" :-(  Bloody shame
> really in a country as powerful and wealthy as the USA! Don't get twitchy
> folks we have similar situations right here in Canada. Unfortunately! :-(
>
> The colour image we can compare isn't as powerful as the B&W. It doesn't
> cover the same amount of lens coverage that adds to the impact. The B&W
> shows how large her area of living space is 24 hours day after day!! You
> look closer in B&W! Why? Well you see every tiny thing of each character in
> the photograph without one iota of colour distracting by each little 
> colour.
>
> Sure it shows the colour effects, but the colours appear to clash with
> each other and take away the powerful visual effect of B&W! Actually I feel
> the colour "softens the visual power effect?" Certainly in this situation?
>
> Selecting an image for your project I'd be looking at shooting very nearly
> all B&W without a thought of colour!  Just think about all the images from
> Viet Nam? Then think about which ones depicted the horrors of war and life
> day to day! The most memorable were in B&W! As is the case with this lady!
>
> I will go back to my quotation:
> "When you photograph people in colour. You photograph their clothes. But
> when you photograph people in B&W. You photograph their souls!" What we see
> here is an absolute verification of that!
>
> I trust this gives you some solace as a comment?
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Tina Manley
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