Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks Geoff, I will try the new card bit when I get home. I am using LR4 which is certainly much more current than the M8 :-) I will not upgrade to LR5 until LR6 is out. That's my general rule: always be one version behind. Cheers, Nathan On 3 Dec 2013, at 04:16, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > Nathan there is processing done in the camera in the first place and your > Raw Converter (you are shooting raw?) has to process the data to make it > viewable as a 'normal' viewable to our eyes image too. So some default > developing has to be taking place even if you are not applying and settings > at all. > Amplifying the darks in an underexposed image (and altering contrast?) is > applying further developing settings and those MAY be responsible for > making processing artefacts more visible. Again noise is the classic > example of that but banding can be too. > You can go ahead and try that new card of course. No harm in that at all. > If you like I would be happy to look at an original file for you too if > that would provide any clues. > I seem to remember too that you are working with an early version of LR/PS > as well? There were improvements to the processing engine later as well. In > your position I would then be talking to Leica Camera as well with samples. > Just my thoughts and suggestions. Good luck > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 3 December 2013 10:25, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > >> Geoff, it is processing then how come I see it as soon as the image >> appears on the screen, before any processing is applied? When I import the >> RAW files into Lightroom, I do nothing to them, whatever processing I do >> is >> done manually afterwards. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> On 2 Dec 2013, at 22:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I need to amend what I just said. I looked again at your sample in full >>> size. I was wrong thinking you had fine blue lines (from pixel or sensor >>> electronics problem). >>> Your image shows banding. That really looks like a processing artefact >> to >>> me. I bet you can reproduce it from a big underexposure with the darks >>> lightened in developing. The effect would be more or less obvious >> depending >>> on content and ISO too. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> >>> On 3 December 2013 06:54, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have never heard of a card problem producing these fine lines on an >>>> image myself. Corrupted writes, sure. >>>> If you do buy a new card, just put it in the camera and format it there >>>> once and then test if you want to check that theory though. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 December 2013 01:34, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Download SD formatter >>>>> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/ >>>>> And use it as directed. >>>>> >>>>> Jay >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Jay, will give it a try. I rotate my SD cards, so no single >> card >>>>> should be "worn out" yet, but given how cheap they are, I will buy a >> new >>>>> one and see if it makes a difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nathan >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2013, at 04:37, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>>> A fix may be as simple as a new SD card. >>>>>>> I've read of well used cards exhibiting artifacts like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/1/2013 12:04 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>>>>> I bought my M8 new in December 2008, and have taken perhaps 20,000 >>>>> pictures with it during the 5 years I have owned it. Lately, I have >> noticed >>>>> that pictures taken in low light (so ISO of 1250 or sometimes even 640) >>>>> have the horizontal line problem with increasing frequency. Last night >> we >>>>> had friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, and to my dismay, the >> problem now >>>>> even occurs at ISO 320, as in this picture: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/belgiangator/misc/20131130-L1010169.jpg.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the first time I have seen this phenomenon at such a low >> ISO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I wonder if it can really be that a sensor "wears out" after so >>>>> few actuations? Obviously, the camera is long out of warranty so >> sending it >>>>> to Solms is not an option. Have others experienced this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In any case, I am taking the Fuji X-Pro 1 with me to Korea later >>>>> today, it is a much better choice at this time of year when the light >> is >>>>> low in northern latitudes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman >> Blog: >> http://www.nathansmusings.eu/ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.nathansmusings.eu/