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Subject: [Leica] Jayanand's comments about "Tea Party"
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:53:05 +0200
References: <8D09B0FE554A709-1F10-19DB0@webmail-m136.sysops.aol.com> <A3023EFE866B40858C4826A6ACC08F02@Family> <52664C5C.70803@summaventures.com>

With apologies to JRR Tolkien

Do not meddle in the affairs of gun owners, for they 
are subtle and quick to anger.

Cheers
Douglas

On 22.10.2013 11:58, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> Guys,
>
> arms are very much OT.
>
> We all know we disagree. Can we PLEASE get back to images?
>
> Peter
>
> On 19/10/2013 21:23, Douglas Barry wrote:
>> LZ writes
>> "....are full of stories of soldiers going berserk"  and continues "IRA 
>> zealots
>> shooting Brits"
>>
>> The last soldiers I heard going beserk were in the USA. The "IRA" are not
>> soldiers. They are irregulars fuelled by misinformation, not supported by 
>> the
>> way vaster majority in the Republic of Ireland, funded by drug money, and 
>> addled
>> and bolstered by drugs themselves. However, you'd have to live in Ireland 
>> to
>> discover that. I would remind you of the First Rule of Holes.... Stop 
>> Digging!
>>
>> Instead, take out your camera and take some shots. And if I may comment 
>> further,
>> I didn't go for your pizza one as I found that black blank space in the 
>> upper
>> right corner too distracting..
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <lrzeitlin at aol.com>
>> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Jayanand's comments about "Tea Party"
>>
>>
>>> Taught to shoot at ten years, and you
>>> consider it "normal" - even if you are just busy exterminating animals
>>> instead of human beings - this is just unbelievable to the vast
>>> majority of humans on Earth. Those "military types" are far more
>>> trained and responsible, as well as safer for everyone than than the
>>> general public with cupboards full of guns, mostly unlicensed.
>>>
>>> I know you will come back at me with some slanging comments on India,
>>> as you normally do, but what India is does not change the reality of
>>> what the USA is. Remember that.
>>> Jayanand
>>> - - - -
>>> Jayanand, with all due respect, you don't have a clue. I served in the
>>> military in two wars. In the Korean war I qualified as a tank commander 
>>> at Ft.
>>> Knox and was assigned to photograph armored equipment in combat. In 
>>> addition
>>> to a Signal Corps Leica IIIf I was issued a M1 carbine and a Colt 1911 
>>> pistol.
>>> I used both in actual combat. I was recalled to the Army as a company
>>> commander in the first stages of the Vietnam war.
>>>
>>> Your assumption that "military types" are more prudent in weapons use 
>>> than the
>>> general public is unfounded. If anything, they are taught to kill. 
>>> That's what
>>> a gun is for. In my state gun ownership is highly regulated. Licenses are
>>> required for all handguns and a rigorous firearms safety course must be
>>> completed. Of course illegal, unregistered weapons are available, just 
>>> as they
>>> are everywhere. If you go into any city in the world, visit a seedy 
>>> section of
>>> town. wave a handful of banknotes in the air, and say "I want to buy a 
>>> gun"
>>> you will be offered your choice within a few minutes. Even in Chennai.
>>>
>>> Newspapers worldwide are full of stories of soldiers going berserk and
>>> spraying bullets into real and imaginary opponents. Shiites shooting 
>>> Sunnis,
>>> Jews shooting Arabs, IRA zealots shooting Brits, and Americans shooting
>>> children. As for my slanging comments about India, I hardly need to 
>>> remind you
>>> about the massacres that take place on almost a daily basis in that 
>>> peaceful
>>> country. The death toll after the partition was greater than in our 
>>> Civil War.
>>>
>>> These days I prefer to shoot pictures - not bullets. I also like to eat 
>>> meat
>>> and drink fine whiskey.
>>>
>>> Larry Z
>>>
>>>
>>>
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