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Subject: [Leica] Jayanand's comments about "Tea Party"
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:58:52 +0100
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Guys,

arms are very much OT.

We all know we disagree. Can we PLEASE get back to images?

Peter

On 19/10/2013 21:23, Douglas Barry wrote:
> LZ writes
> "....are full of stories of soldiers going berserk"  and continues "IRA 
> zealots
> shooting Brits"
> 
> The last soldiers I heard going beserk were in the USA. The "IRA" are not
> soldiers. They are irregulars fuelled by misinformation, not supported by 
> the
> way vaster majority in the Republic of Ireland, funded by drug money, and 
> addled
> and bolstered by drugs themselves. However, you'd have to live in Ireland 
> to
> discover that. I would remind you of the First Rule of Holes.... Stop 
> Digging!
> 
> Instead, take out your camera and take some shots. And if I may comment 
> further,
> I didn't go for your pizza one as I found that black blank space in the 
> upper
> right corner too distracting..
> 
> Regards
> 
> Douglas
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <lrzeitlin at aol.com>
> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Jayanand's comments about "Tea Party"
> 
> 
>> Taught to shoot at ten years, and you
>> consider it "normal" - even if you are just busy exterminating animals
>> instead of human beings - this is just unbelievable to the vast
>> majority of humans on Earth. Those "military types" are far more
>> trained and responsible, as well as safer for everyone than than the
>> general public with cupboards full of guns, mostly unlicensed.
>>
>> I know you will come back at me with some slanging comments on India,
>> as you normally do, but what India is does not change the reality of
>> what the USA is. Remember that.
>> Jayanand
>> - - - -
>> Jayanand, with all due respect, you don't have a clue. I served in the
>> military in two wars. In the Korean war I qualified as a tank commander 
>> at Ft.
>> Knox and was assigned to photograph armored equipment in combat. In 
>> addition
>> to a Signal Corps Leica IIIf I was issued a M1 carbine and a Colt 1911 
>> pistol.
>> I used both in actual combat. I was recalled to the Army as a company
>> commander in the first stages of the Vietnam war.
>>
>> Your assumption that "military types" are more prudent in weapons use 
>> than the
>> general public is unfounded. If anything, they are taught to kill. That's 
>> what
>> a gun is for. In my state gun ownership is highly regulated. Licenses are
>> required for all handguns and a rigorous firearms safety course must be
>> completed. Of course illegal, unregistered weapons are available, just as 
>> they
>> are everywhere. If you go into any city in the world, visit a seedy 
>> section of
>> town. wave a handful of banknotes in the air, and say "I want to buy a 
>> gun"
>> you will be offered your choice within a few minutes. Even in Chennai.
>>
>> Newspapers worldwide are full of stories of soldiers going berserk and
>> spraying bullets into real and imaginary opponents. Shiites shooting 
>> Sunnis,
>> Jews shooting Arabs, IRA zealots shooting Brits, and Americans shooting
>> children. As for my slanging comments about India, I hardly need to 
>> remind you
>> about the massacres that take place on almost a daily basis in that 
>> peaceful
>> country. The death toll after the partition was greater than in our Civil 
>> War.
>>
>> These days I prefer to shoot pictures - not bullets. I also like to eat 
>> meat
>> and drink fine whiskey.
>>
>> Larry Z
>>
>>
>>
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Dr Peter Dzwig                          



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