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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Tina's "Tea Party" reunion propaganda photo
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:02:33 -0700
References: <CE8713B7.12447%mark@rabinergroup.com>

On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> Easily the worst thing I've ever read on the the LUG the whole time I've
> been here.
> 
> 
> On 10/18/13 3:54 PM, "Lawrence R. Zeitlin" <LRZeitlin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't over react to guns. They are common in rural America. There are
>> far more guns in the US than there are Leicas, Nikon, Canons, and all
>> other fine cameras combined. The gun culture is alive and well not only
>> in the south but in the North West, the mid-Atlantic states and in New
>> England. The next time you take a drive on a cross country highway stop
>> in at a Cabella's or a Bass Pro sporting goods store. You will see
>> enough guns on display to arm a regiment and enough ammunition to stock
>> a medium sized rebellion. Schools are even closed during deer hunting
>> season in much of Pennsylvania.

too sad...

I guess this may minimize the children's chance of being hit by a stray 
bullet.


s






>> A successful hunt is the key to a well
>> fed holiday season. New York City even hosted the Bannerman warehouse
>> until it moved up the Hudson to Pollopel Island. Bannerman and family
>> were merchants who bought up most of the military surplus from the
>> Civil War, the Spanish-American war and WW I. Most of the world's
>> rebellions until the outbreak of WW 2 used Bannerman supplied weapons.
>> My father even had a Sears Roebuck sized catalog of Bannerman's arms
>> available for resale.
>> 
>> When I was a boy the country was much less urban than it is now. In
>> rural communities gun ownership was accepted as a fact of life. Most
>> families owned at least two guns, a shotgun for hunting and a 22 cal.
>> rifle for the kids to plink around with. Most high schools had rifle
>> teams, usually subsidized by the Army. Indeed an armed population was
>> considered the key to national defense. What enemy would attack a
>> country with a well armed citizenry? The NRA, rather than being
>> dedicated to supporting the Second Amendment, was an advocate of
>> teaching marksmanship in schools.
>> 
>> I currently own three guns, a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. My
>> favorite is a Browning semi-automatic 22 rifle, also John Browning's
>> favorite gun. It is beautiful, a true work of art. I bought it on sight
>> 40 years ago. I lusted after that gun more than I ever lusted after a
>> Leica camera. It has appreciated in price more than twenty times the
>> price I paid.
>> <http://www.basspro.com/Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-LR-Rifle/product/102
>> 17873/>
>> 
>> I was taught to shoot as a ten year old at a YMCA camp by a German
>> doctor who had served as in infantryman under the Kaiser during WW I.
>> At one time I was even capable of shooting a bullet through the center
>> of a cigarette, end on, at 50 ft. I shake too much now and my vision
>> isn't what it used to be.
>> 
>> The prevalence of arms has a low correlation with gun murder rates.
>> Vermont and New Hampshire are the U.S. states with the highest per
>> capita gun ownership, minimum regulatory requirements, and also the
>> lowest rates of gun homicides. What really disturbs me is traveling
>> through Europe and the Middle East and seeing all those young military
>> types in airports and wandering the streets with fully armed large
>> magazine assault rifles slung over their backs. How responsible are
>> they? You guys who are appalled at seeing weapons, think about that.
>> 
>> Now about Tina's picture of a "Tea Party" family reunion. This may be a
>> minority opinion but I think it is a poorly composed, unsharp, snapshot
>> of a family at a dinner table with one person handing a gun to another.
>> Just a bad picture. Peter is right is stating that prudent gun handling
>> practices are being violated. The is no indication that it is a "Tea
>> Party" meeting at all. Even Tina's  original title on her web site does
>> not identify it as such. This picture is far below Tina's usual
>> standard and I suspect was titled and posted only to evoke comment. And
>> you can see. It did.
>> 
>> Larry Z
>> 
>> 
>> 
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