Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/10/18

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Tina's "Tea Party" reunion propaganda photo
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:35:03 -0400

Easily the worst thing I've ever read on the the LUG the whole time I've
been here.


On 10/18/13 3:54 PM, "Lawrence R. Zeitlin" <LRZeitlin at aol.com> wrote:

> Don't over react to guns. They are common in rural America. There are
> far more guns in the US than there are Leicas, Nikon, Canons, and all
> other fine cameras combined. The gun culture is alive and well not only
> in the south but in the North West, the mid-Atlantic states and in New
> England. The next time you take a drive on a cross country highway stop
> in at a Cabella's or a Bass Pro sporting goods store. You will see
> enough guns on display to arm a regiment and enough ammunition to stock
> a medium sized rebellion. Schools are even closed during deer hunting
> season in much of Pennsylvania. A successful hunt is the key to a well
> fed holiday season. New York City even hosted the Bannerman warehouse
> until it moved up the Hudson to Pollopel Island. Bannerman and family
> were merchants who bought up most of the military surplus from the
> Civil War, the Spanish-American war and WW I. Most of the world's
> rebellions until the outbreak of WW 2 used Bannerman supplied weapons.
> My father even had a Sears Roebuck sized catalog of Bannerman's arms
> available for resale.
> 
> When I was a boy the country was much less urban than it is now. In
> rural communities gun ownership was accepted as a fact of life. Most
> families owned at least two guns, a shotgun for hunting and a 22 cal.
> rifle for the kids to plink around with. Most high schools had rifle
> teams, usually subsidized by the Army. Indeed an armed population was
> considered the key to national defense. What enemy would attack a
> country with a well armed citizenry? The NRA, rather than being
> dedicated to supporting the Second Amendment, was an advocate of
> teaching marksmanship in schools.
> 
> I currently own three guns, a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. My
> favorite is a Browning semi-automatic 22 rifle, also John Browning's
> favorite gun. It is beautiful, a true work of art. I bought it on sight
> 40 years ago. I lusted after that gun more than I ever lusted after a
> Leica camera. It has appreciated in price more than twenty times the
> price I paid.
> <http://www.basspro.com/Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-LR-Rifle/product/102
> 17873/>
> 
> I was taught to shoot as a ten year old at a YMCA camp by a German
> doctor who had served as in infantryman under the Kaiser during WW I.
> At one time I was even capable of shooting a bullet through the center
> of a cigarette, end on, at 50 ft. I shake too much now and my vision
> isn't what it used to be.
> 
> The prevalence of arms has a low correlation with gun murder rates.
> Vermont and New Hampshire are the U.S. states with the highest per
> capita gun ownership, minimum regulatory requirements, and also the
> lowest rates of gun homicides. What really disturbs me is traveling
> through Europe and the Middle East and seeing all those young military
> types in airports and wandering the streets with fully armed large
> magazine assault rifles slung over their backs. How responsible are
> they? You guys who are appalled at seeing weapons, think about that.
> 
> Now about Tina's picture of a "Tea Party" family reunion. This may be a
> minority opinion but I think it is a poorly composed, unsharp, snapshot
> of a family at a dinner table with one person handing a gun to another.
> Just a bad picture. Peter is right is stating that prudent gun handling
> practices are being violated. The is no indication that it is a "Tea
> Party" meeting at all. Even Tina's  original title on her web site does
> not identify it as such. This picture is far below Tina's usual
> standard and I suspect was titled and posted only to evoke comment. And
> you can see. It did.
> 
> Larry Z
> 
> 
> 
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