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Subject: [Leica] Midocean assistance
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:04:57 -0500
References: <62353B38-9555-41A7-AC0C-FC9AE348B30A@bex.net> <1DE97F48-B25E-4305-8D50-AC6CE362AAE8@frozenlight.eu> <D7663BB2-B34D-4AD8-81CE-E0F435787554@bex.net>

The two times that the airport nuked my film, ruining it, were the two times 
that I asked to have it inspected by hand. I think one should only ask for 
hand-inspecting if there is an ACLU attorney with you.

Jeffery

On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Howard Ritter wrote:

> Thanks, Nathan and everyone else who answered. I was expecting to have the 
> film hand-inspected flying out of Heathrow, so it's dismaying to learn 
> that's not an option. 
> 
> My conclusion is that the cost of two rolls of film is trivial compared to 
> the value of the photos made thereon, so I'm going to buy new film in 
> London and try to have it processed before returning. Back home I'll have 
> my local lab process one of the unexposed rolls, or perhaps part of it, 
> and decide whether to us the rest.
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Howard, as for the film, you will get many answers, contradictory I 
>> suspect. Some people swear that the Tri-X got fogged just by approaching 
>> an airport, while others will swear that multiple passes through airport 
>> scanners with TMZ did no harm. I am in the latter category. In any event, 
>> in Europe there is no hand inspection of film, everything goes through 
>> the scanner.
>> 
>> When I was commuting between Amsterdam and Seville on a weekly basis back 
>> in 2003-2004, I would often just leave a roll in my camera bag between 
>> trips. So I have had rolls of Neopan 1600 (my favorite high speed film) 
>> that passed through airport scanners 3-4 times, both exposed and 
>> unexposed. I have never seen any ill effects. The airports involved were 
>> Amsterdam and various Spanish airports--Seville, Malaga, Madrid mainly.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Howard Ritter wrote:
>> 
>>> Cynthia and I are treating ourselves finally to a 20-year ambition, 
>>> crossing the Atlantic on a Cunard liner. It's the Queen Mary 2, sailing 
>>> from New York to Southampton, followed by 6 nights in London. For 
>>> compactness and general touristy stuff I've brought the NEX7 with the 
>>> kit 18-55 plus the 16 with a 12mm converter. For more serious stuff I 
>>> have an M3 wearing a 50/1.4 'Lux, loaded with TXP, and I have a couple 
>>> rolls of TMax 3200.
>>> 
>>> Question: will the high-speed film survive a single passage thru airport 
>>> security X-ray? I got discombobulated at the last instant taking stuff 
>>> off and putting it into the plastic bin, and the rolls, which I had 
>>> taken out of the bag to ask for hand inspection, stayed in my coat 
>>> pocket and went through in the bin. My thought is to leave the 3200 
>>> unused, buy new rolls in London, and when I get back, have one of the 
>>> X-rayed rolls developed to see if there's any fogging, then use or toss 
>>> the remaining roll accordingly. But if anyone has reassuring experience, 
>>> I might go ahead and use the rolls in London.
>>> 
>>> Will have photos to post in a few weeks, but meanwhile here are a couple 
>>> from the ship today. We were treated to a no-extra-cost bonus bit of 
>>> entertainment, courtesy of those nice folks at Cunard. At about 0900 the 
>>> Bridge announced that a solo female transatlantic rower (Halifax to 
>>> France) had lost some equipment in a storm and requested assistance, and 
>>> that the QM2 was going to her aid! Fortunately, our track must have been 
>>> taking us very close to her position, as I was not aware of steaming off 
>>> our usual course. About 1000 (Fernando de Noronha Standard Time) we 
>>> slowed to a dead stop and spotted her a mile off the port bow. And by 
>>> "we" I mean EVERYBODY. I think the whole ship's party (~2000?) except 
>>> for the essential crews was out on the decks to greet her. Tiny partly 
>>> closed yellow craft, about 7 m long, bobbing in swells sometimes deep 
>>> enough to hide her from view even from our elevated position, with a 
>>> lone figure in a black seasuit rowing toward this 1100' ocean liner 
>>> stopped dead in the water for her. She waved and blew kisses and we all 
>>> cheered and everybody had a camera at the ready. The crew tossed out 
>>> some packages containing a satellite phone and a sea anchor, the 
>>> essentials that she had lost, plus some other provisions. She took some 
>>> pictures of her own, held up a sign (which I couldn't read), shouted her 
>>> thanks, and came over the VHF, which the Bridge put over the PA, to 
>>> thank us all in English and French. She retrieved the packages, and the 
>>> whole ship's company, led by the Bridge on the PA, gave her a rousing 
>>> three cheers. When the wind and her oars had taken her to a safe 
>>> standoff distance, we got underway again. Later the Bridge announced 
>>> that she had told them "this is the best day of my life!" Her name is 
>>> something like Mylene Paquette. She'll surely come up in Google and by 
>>> tomorrow, I should think, there ought to be a little news about the QM2 
>>> assisting her as well. A couple of photos at:
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Fotos/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ?howard
>>> 
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