Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Very good input. I selected the 18-35 because it weighs half the 17-35. While I will pixel-peep, especially in evaluation mode, but the final test will be for purpose. Frank Filippone On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > Certainly true. I have the 17-35 2.8 and the 70-210/2.8 V1, both of which > are considered by most denizens of the net as something not fit for their > grandparents. I will argue the point and can show large prints to prove > mine. I would get either and be happy. I also have the current version of > the 24-120 and it produces fine results as well. Of course this is for > those who like to take photos and print them for viewing. If you shoot > photos for the purpose of carefully examining at 100% pixels tirelessly, > which I don't think you do, all bets are off. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- From: Frank Filippone > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:23 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT. Nikon screen brightness and contrast > > Thanks for the inputs. While Zeiss glass is good, weight/ FL range goals > can not be achieved without zoom lenses > > Frank Filippone > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > >> All lenses have strengths and weaknesses. The Zeiss lenses are superb, >> with perhaps more resolving power than the Leica equivalents and >> certainly more contrast. Colors from the Zeiss lenses pop in a way unlike >> any other lenses. Many Nikon lenses are also quite good in a very unlike >> Leica way. Nikkors seem to me to be somewhere near to the Zeiss lenses, >> but with more flare and a bit softer. At least the Leica lenses I have, >> like me several generations away from state of the art, are certainly >> sharp, but without the dramatic contrast of the Zeiss lenses. I will say >> that although I love my M9, I have some photos from my D3 that measure up >> quite well. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Frank Filippone >> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:52 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT. Nikon screen brightness and contrast >> >> Every point you made is correct. If I can prove to myself that the lenses >> are acceptable, I can take the next step: rent/ buy/borrow a D800e and >> test system vs system. >> >> What I have not directly said is that I am skeptical the Nikon optics >> will hold up to a comparison with Leica. So I am starting at the weakest >> and (luckily) least costly point. Work my way up from there. >> Note that while the Nikon offers more pixels, i believe it is the FW >> algorithms that make a significantly bigger difference to IQ. IMO the >> Major contribution. The reality is that the FW works on all lenses. >> Better quality optics reflect in better IQ in the same FW environment. >> IMO, the DMR, with Imacon ( think I have that right) FW is a big/ biggest >> difference to why the DNR has great IQ. (And why the Hasselblad line is >> so highly regarded in MF). >> >> Thank you Doug for challenging my technique. Keep me on target. >> Frank Filippone >> >> On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Frank Filippone wrote: >>> >>> Good input Doug. Thought long and hard about the point you are making. >>> The problem is that to test using a D800e would require a $3k investment. >>> <<< >>> >>> Rentals are a good way to dip your toes in the water. >>> >>> The adapter is basically an empty tube. No IQ effect. >>> <<< >>> >>> If it's the proper thinkness and the front & back surfaces are parallel >>> >>> I also believe the increased resolution of the Nikon and the absence of >>> the IR filter will show the Nikon body to have of increased IQ compared >>> to the Leica. >>> <<< >>> >>> Best to verify this assumption. There's more to image quality than the >>> number of pixels, as DMR users have been saying for years. >>> >>> Doug Herr >>> Birdman of Sacramento >>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information