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Subject: [Leica] Stupidity!I
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:14:38 +0100
References: <C57E424B-0699-469F-AB11-D8F079FB49CE@acm.org> <8EB6DBC0-B470-4967-ABE3-65FBCA6D9305@acm.org> <289275EC-2CE1-41CA-9DCD-2D8572FBBA08@frozenlight.eu>

Nathan,
Spot on. Exactly why I set both manually.
Cheers
Jayanand

Sent from my iPad

On 01-Aug-2013, at 5:35 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:

> It is not useless at all to have the camera on aperture priority and auto 
> ISO. What happens then is that as long as the light is enough to shoot 
> above the minimum shutter speed at the aperture you have chosen at base 
> ISO, the camera will use use that ISO. Once the slowest shutter speed has 
> been reached, the camera starts increasing ISO. And the configuration of 
> maximum ISO and slowest shutter speed you will accept is extremely useful, 
> as it allows you to decide how you wish to trade off possible camera shake 
> for image deterioration due to high ISO. It is the ability of the Fuji 
> camera to set the slowest acceptable shutter speed that has driven me (and 
> others) to set both aperture and shutter speed manually.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> On 1 Aug 2013, at 01:17, Herbert Kanner wrote:
> 
>> I have to follow up on this, at least for M9 owners. Both the Leica M9 
>> manual and the firmware in the camera seem to imply that Auto ISO was 
>> intended for use with the shutter control in A (aperture preferred 
>> position). This I base on the menu settings in which you can specify the 
>> highest acceptable ISO and the slowest acceptable shutter speed. As 
>> stated in a previous email, I found this configuration to be virtually 
>> useless.
>> 
>> The use I did find was either not intended, or not implied by either the 
>> manual nor the firmware style: I set the shutter speed to 1/250 and took 
>> a series of shots at progressive f stops. On chimping the result, I saw 
>> the ISO climbing and the set of pictures looking pretty much the same. So 
>> for all practical purposes, it is picking "shutter speed preferred". 
>> 
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at acm.org
>> 650-326-8204
>> 
>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I now admit to terminal stupidity. Auto ISO makes sense on M's when a 
>>> shutter speed has been selected, not when Aperture Preferred is set. 
>>> With a chosen shutter speed, it in effect becomes "shutter speed 
>>> preferred".
>>> 
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 650-326-8204
>>> 
>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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