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Subject: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 16:18:37 -0700
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Hi Michael me old son,
No point getting into this in the manner you describe as this BITCH was 
nothing more than a loveless cold hearted bitch!!!! I don't recall her ever 
saying "Good Morning!" to anyone in the crew at anytime....... Maybe a 
couple of "Thanks" as cold hearted as a crocodile in the arctic! We all 
found out during the few weeks this crew worked together 12 hours a day she 
even rarely offered a "G'day or G'bye at the end of the shift!!

No amount of politeness nor pleasantries were rarely if any offered at 
anytime!!!!!!!!!!!.

Yes you are quite right with the right kind of people you describe. And in 
my 64 working year career under all kinds of situations, locations and the 
wildest of assignments you can possibly imagine I have never run into one 
such as this.

Usage of words as "Dear" are used in many nationalities and as you offer the 
word isn't used in the same connotation everywhere.  However!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But for the many who do use it quite often in their day to day vocabulary 
it's used in a fashion and with meaning as breathing. And certainly without 
hardly a thought......... "OTHER THAN THE WILD AND CRAZY THOUGHT OF MAKING 
AN INITIAL "HIT ON SOME CUTIE!" Now don't all go crazy...... it's meant in 
fun!"

cheers,
Dr. ted




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Russ" <michael.t.russ at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology


> To play devil's advocate - whose upbringing gets to set the rules for what 
> is considered polite?
>
> Perhaps this woman had not been raised in an environment where people used 
> "dear" in that manner.  I grew up in New Jersey, and my family only used 
> the word "dear" when writing letters or talking with people who really 
> were dear.
>
> In that context, if a stranger or someone I only work with professionally 
> were to call me "dear", I would feel a bit creepy and perhaps even annoyed 
> that he or she would have presumed to be that close to me.  I might even 
> be haughty enough to say that it was impolite.
>
> You should have aired your thoughts as you thought them, notwithstanding 
> your desire to maintain decorum.  She could have told you why your "dear" 
> set her off, and the both of you most likely would have found that both of 
> you were overreacting.  You might have found that she had a good reason 
> for overreacting.
>
>
>
> On 7/4/13 5:31 PM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
>> OK folks here's the stupidest word relationship to this whole subject and 
>> how my life evolved to this modern day use of such a simple word as 
>> "Dear. dear. DEAR!"  READY? If ever I was ready to kill the stupid bitch 
>> !!!!!!
>>
>> OK HERE WE GO.>>>>
>>
>> I grew-up in an English-Welsh language old country fashion family in use 
>> of the word.... "Dear, dear in more connotations than is posible to 
>> recall.
>>
>>   A few:
>> "What  a dear boy."
>> What a dear girl?"
>> What a dear Lady
>>
>> And yes, "What a dear man when a hand of support was offered or door 
>> opened for a lady! ......... (referring to all kinds of ages.}
>>
>> Male or female responses to so many situations it's immpossible to list 
>> them all.
>>
>> "Thanks dear!"  Male to female.... stranger or friend and never seen as a 
>> negative.
>> The above comment in reverse female to male. Still no inflection other 
>> than... a kind of "thanks!"
>>
>> Not to waste space I'm sure you have the idea? A simple kind of "thank 
>> you!"
>>
>> Then came a year ago and I'm introduced to one of those "over educated 
>> university type women wearing a "straight-jacket of a face, posture, 
>> dress and God Forbid............ "ATTITUDE!!!" AAACCCCKKKKK ! PUKE! :-(
>>
>> So after a few days of meetings and becoming familiar with the crew 
>> involved in the project the "bitch offerd a simple instruction to me. :-) 
>> Yeah me! A light kind of missive.  "AND WITH OUT ANY THOUGHT ON MY PART. 
>> I RESPOND QUITE LIGHT HEARTEDLY............ "Ok dear right away!!!" As 
>> I'm about to jump to her request............. "THIS SCREAMING VOICE OF A 
>> VAMPIRE REPONDS WITH AND EVERYBODY COULD HEAR HER!!!!!!!!
>>
>> " I'M NOT YOUR DEAR!!!!! NEVER USE THAT WORD AGAIN WHEN SPEAKING TO 
>> ME........... I'M CHRISTINA!!!!!!! NOT YOUR DEAR!!!!!!!!"
>>
>> YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP IN THE ROOM!!!!!! ME? IN MY MIND........ 
>> "IGNORANT BITCH!!!!!! AND NEARLY SAID IT!!!!!  A gentleman of course 
>> wouldn't in any event! So I responded in a flash....... "Sorry just for a 
>> moment  my thoughts were about my Mom. Sorry to offend you m'am!" And 
>> from that moment on I never addressed her by name, but anything I could 
>> work around it! More fun waiting  to see if I could get her to rip me 
>> again? :-)
>>
>> 85 years vertical & breathing on Mother Earth  and never ever had a 
>> female scream at me in such a vulgar fashion over such a wonderful 
>> million dollar multi-use meaning word!! "Dear!"
>>
>> And they walk amongst us, small minded short on meaning in the use of our 
>> wonderful language.!!!!!!!!!! God help-us over such a small word 
>> use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Later when I described the event to my "WONDERFUL ... 
>> SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED!" :-)
>>
>> Sorry I can't repeat what she said about this poor damsel in word mental 
>> distress!!!!!!!!!! ;-) :-) However let's say she was more than annoyed 
>> with her....... "THE BITCH!" :-) Later I did think of a great number of 
>> words I could've called her. But dismissed them simply because if I used 
>> any, all I'd do is belittle myself! Not worth the time in the life of a 
>> gentleman! :-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted :-)
>>
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