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Subject: [Leica] Re; Politically Incorrect terminology
From: kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:54:10 -0700
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It's slangy but I seem to have seen the word: "hunk".

Herbert Kanner
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Question authority and the authorities will question you.




On Jul 3, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 2:27 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, lrzeitlin at aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've been a semi-invalid for the last week recovering from cancer 
>>>> surgery and I've found the last few editions of the LUG to be a good 
>>>> substitute for "War of the Sexes." They take out the stiches in a few 
>>>> days and I should be back to my usual acerbic self.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I personally am appalled at the cultural insensitivity to sexist 
>>>> terminology exhibited by many male LUG members. Despite the fact that 
>>>> some of us disagree with Tina's excessive regard for Leica equipment, 
>>>> we don't refer to her as a senorita...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have to agree that the way senorita is used here on the LUG, I find to 
>>> be disrespectful to women, condescending, demeaning, and 
>>> 
>>> ultimately sexist. We don't refer to young men by the equivalent.
>>> 
>>> If one of my daughters were photographed  by a LUG member and described 
>>> in these terms, that young lady would certainly not be 
>>> 
>>> happy, and neither would her father.
>> 
>> wow. do neither of you feel or understand the appreciation in the use of 
>> the word "se?orita" on the LUG?
>> I certainly would not feel offended by someone referring to my daughter,
>> or a photograph of my daughter, as "beautiful young woman."
> 
> "beautiful young woman" implies respect, senorita as used here seems to be 
> a code word implying a certain lack of respect.....
> 
> why are we so comfortable with that word, but we have no equivalent for a 
> handsome young man?
> 
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>> 
>> I certainly understand language and when language is misused.
>> Se?orita,
>> young woman,
>> young women,
>> girl (when used for females under 12 or 13),
>> les jeunes femmes,
>> junge frauen, fr?ulein
>> do not qualify as sexist
>> in my lexicon 
>> 
>> are we to refer to men and women as "persons" (never mention gender or 
>> age)?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser 
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
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