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Subject: [Leica] PESO: RG Lewis and Leica M frustrations
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 20:49:33 -0700
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On May 25, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> I was NEVER pro-Canon.  I used Canon when I had to switch to digital for
> professional reasons.  Leica had nothing digital at the time.  I hated
> Canon from the first time I used it and I continue to hate it every time I
> have to process the files.  All of those photos could have been Leica
> quality if only Leica had come out with a digital camera.  Instead, I'm
> left with the chromatic aberrations, distortions, missed focus of using a
> DSLR with inferior wide angle lenses.  It takes hours more to process a
> Canon digital file than a Leica one.
> 
> I still think you get what you pay for and I pay for quality with Leica
> that I don't get with cheaper systems, at all.



sorry Tina, my error...


Steve



> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Steve Barbour
>> 
>> On May 25, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. Just for the record, since I started this thread: so far this
>> year, I have shot 1723 pictures (actually, I have shot considerably more,
>> but 1723 is what is left in Lightroom after deleting the ones I did not
>> think were worth keeping). Of those 1723, the breakdown by camera is:
>> 
>> Leica M8: 612
>> Pentax K5: 404
>> Panasonic GF2: 363
>> Fuji X100: 320
>> iPhone: 13
>> Film: 9
>> Canon 5D: 2
>> 
>> The Canon is not mine, it is just a couple of pictures of me that my
>> friend Lars sent me.
>> 
>> So despite my critical remarks about the behaviour of the Leica company, I
>> still use its products more than any of the other brands. I think I am
>> fairly typical--Tina may be a Leica-only user,
>> 
>> Tina is showing us a lot of her more mature images from sources uncertain,
>> maybe even from her pro-Canon days...
>> 
>> but I have the impression that most of us use more than one camera system.
>> I try to pick the right tool for the circumstances. So:
>> 
>> M8 is the base camera, for everyday use
>> K5 is for times when I need an SLR (macro, long lens) and for trips where
>> I expect bad weather and/or having to shoot a lot in poor light
>> GF2 is for cycling
>> X100 is for trips when I need to travel ultra-light and for low light
>> situations.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2013, at 1:01 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>> 
>>> No the name should stay.  Even though I am using the D4 for DSLR needs
>> more & more, I still use the R8DMR when it is more appropriate, and my M8
>> gets daily use.  It is unfortunate there is little support for repair of
>> the DMR, as mine has a motor issue, but still works just fine with manual
>> advance.  I will modify the lenses with LEITAX mounts when it dies
>> completely.  At least I will still be able to my R glass.
>>> 
>>> Gene
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:49:24 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO: RG Lewis and Leica M frustrations
>>> 
>>> So should we change the name of this group or form another one?  I'm
>> still
>>> a Leica User exclusively and probably will be until I die.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>> gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Richard Taylor <r.s.taylor at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think Steve has it right.  Unless the Mini proves to be a useable
>>>> camera at an acceptable price, Leica will have truly and finally
>> abandoned
>>>> those of us looking for a practical tool in favor of the gifters and
>>>> collectors.
>>>> 
>>>> Leica has abandoned the R users, now they sell the M to collectors at a
>>>> premium, leaving the M users with promises, panting at the door....
>>>> In reality, many are in the process of moving on, to fine alternatives,
>>>> available, and at a fair price.
>>>> 
>>>> s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
> 
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