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Subject: [Leica] Computer Question
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:20:32 +1000
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Tina there is some confusion sorry. I thought that you were talking about
adding an SSD internally  to your desktop not to a laptop?

With either you can have your LR catalogue on an external drive, including
all of your image files if you want. As far as I know you cannot use the
same catalogue in two machines and you cannot have it on a network
drive.You can merge a catalogue from one to the other computer though.

One of the new developments in LR5 may be of interest to you when it is
released in its official form (don't do this with a beta).
There is a new capability to use smart previews of your images on a
different computers and be able to edit and later transfer those edits to
 another computer with the actual files. These are lossy (and hence much
smaller) DNG versions of the originals you can choose to create on import
or later. You probably would not want to do this with your entire library
for size reasons though. You can just work on some folders of current stuff
perhaps.

This discussion has the potential to get bigger and bigger, sorry. I can
send you some links to Lightroom resources that may be helpful if you like.


*Breathe in, breathe out, move on* -- Jimmy Buffett

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 27 May 2013 07:01, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> Thanks, Geoff.  That's very helpful. I'm printing out the article.
>
> Tina
>
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Frank that is not all correct. Information written to an SSD does not
> > disappear when you power off. They certainly can be used as swap drives
> > though, They certainly do read and write faster. That is what they are
> for.
> > Perhaps you are referring to using a USB flash drive as a RAM addition
> for
> > the ready boost function in Windows?
> >
> > Tina in simple terms a Solid State Drive (SSD) is effectively a much
> faster
> > to access version of your standard hard drive. They are now commonly used
> > by enthusiasts especially instead of a traditional type as the main or at
> > least first drive in your computer.For example the current fast and light
> > laptops called ultrabooks typically have only an SSD.
> > In an enthusiast photo computer you can use multiple drives, one for your
> > operating system, another for the swap files of Windows or the camera raw
> > cache for,Photoshop and Lightroom etc another perhaps for bulk storage.
> > SSDs still cost much more per Gigabyte than traditional hard drives
> though.
> >
> > It really depends on how comfortable you are inside your computer. I
> would
> > suggest for most people it is best to have professional help although
> just
> > adding an SSD and setting the camera raw cache to it is not too
> difficult.
> > The drive is usually put in an adapter that lets you put it in a spare
> bay
> > in your case and connected with a single data cable and a power cable. In
> > Ps and Lr preferences you then point to the new drive instead of the
> > default that was created in your main drive.
> > You may want to review your whole system though. To give you some ideas
> > what is possible, here is an article by a local professional expert.
> There
> > is a lot of other useful information on his site too. Be warned this
> > article is abut a real enthusiast level computer specifically for hard
> core
> > image professionals ;-)
> > <
> >
> >
> http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/141/Build%20a%20powerful%20PC%20for%20Photoshop%20and%20other%20imaging%20applications
> > >
> >
> >
> > *Breathe in, breathe out, move on* -- Jimmy Buffett
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 27 May 2013 05:29, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I reviewed the specs and manual that you got with the drive.....
> > >
> > > First,, let me ask you what about your computer is "slow"?  Opening
> > files?
> > > Saving files? LR4 or PS (whatever) version is slow to act upon
> commands?
> > > Other?
> > >
> > > Another way to ask that question is to ask you what did you expect this
> > > product to do for you?  ( same possible answers as above)
> > >
> > > The item you bought is a SSD, Solid State drive.  Its purpose is to
> speed
> > > up
> > > the OS, speed up frequently used files, etc.  It replaces the
> mechanical
> > > HDD
> > > with a solid state one.. My understanding ( and I could be wrong) is
> that
> > > upon starting up the computer, the CPU takes files from your regular
> old
> > > boot HDD, and copies them over to the SSD.  Then, when needed, the CPU
> > > accesses the files not from the mechanical HDD, but rather this SSD.
> > > Significantly shorter delays, significantly faster speeds of those
> files
> > on
> > > the SSD.
> > >
> > > Having said that, the SSD does NOT save any files permanently.  Shut
> off
> > > power, and it goes blank.  Nada.  Nothing. Saving or accessing files
> will
> > > be
> > > as slow as before.  They will be saved on the mechanical HDD.
> > >
> > > What I would say is that the SSD will accelerate the CPU operations
> that
> > > are
> > > cached, including applications like ( and I say MAYBE here) LR4 or PS
> > > whatever, and OS, but ( in your specific case) also including those
> parts
> > > of
> > > a  file that are cached during image processing.
> > >
> > > It will NOT speed up the storage of files.  Either write or read.
> > >
> > > Does this help you to understand what you bought?
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > > Red735i at verizon.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LI7CTY/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UT
> > > F8&psc=1
> > >
> > > I thought it would be an external drive that I could hook up to USB but
> > > it's
> > > not!  There are evidently ways to install it in a drive bay, which I do
> > > have.  What do I need to do that?  Is there any way to use it as an
> > > external
> > > hard drive or would that defeat the purpose?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
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