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Subject: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 13:18:54 -0700
References: <519611a2.0615420a.5710.3d8b@mx.google.com> <CDBC03F5.99BD%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,
I am very serious about my shooting...
M9er 49er Bob


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>wrote:

> Do you have a full frame DSLR?
> Because it would be great to do with your Leica glass what you can do with
> Canon or Nikon glass.  Shoot any time of the day or night in or out doors
> without having to shoot wide open at slow speeds in split inches in focus..
> Those days are really over for most shooters today. For years you can shoot
> savable light situations capturing the action and getting depth of field.
> Not though if you have an M9.
> And its exactly a Leica M which should be ruling those situations. Not
> DSLR'S. And that's exactly why the M9 was not embraced by pro and very
> serious shooters.
> And now with the new M they can bring that camera home to meet Mom.
>
> And photograph  her at f 5.6 at 125th instead of 1.4 at a 15th..
>
>
> On 5/17/13 7:16 AM, "Don Dory" <don.dory at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mark, the thing is, I have an M9: the M9 works beautifully especially
> with the
> > lenses I have.  The new M is better especially at higher ISO's but the
> Fuji is
> > much better yet.  For those occasions where simple is better the Fuji
> with 35
> > F1.4 is smaller, better in low light, and sav es $4000 that can be used
> for
> > other puposes.  So, I already have the Roller but can justify a Subaru
> to take
> > out on salt infested New England backroads.
> >
> > Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4GLTE
> >
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:14:50 AM GMT-0400
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users?
> >
> > For those who are " thinking about my order for the M240 vs. the X
> series."
> > Kind of sounds like one is in the middle of really financing a seven
> grand
> > full frame M but then somehow looking over at the $1400 1.5 crop Fuji in
> the
> > same breath?
> > Here's what I came up with:
> > $7000 - $1400 = $5600.00 savings
> > And also:
> > $7000/$1400 = 5.0
> >
> > So if you last minute having saved seven grand for the M  but then get
> the X
> > instead you have $5600 burning a hole in your back pocket that can buy
> you
> > exactly four more X's.
> > That's quite a discrepancy of dreams!
> > ... Or an extra lens and a trip around the world.
> >
> > Its like "oh boy I get to finally buy that Rolls Royce now but maybe that
> > Honda Civic will also get me there?"
> > Or as we say in the US of A:  apples and oranges.
> > Or lets say you saved up to get a Harley motorcycle but then got a tuna
> fish
> > sandwich instead? Lots of left over here too for extras:
> > Tomatoes
> > Cheese.
> > Lettuce.
> > Pickles
> > Rye bread.
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm just not seeing the overlap between M dreams and X dreams.
> > To me they just don't belong in the same rapid eye movement cycle.
> > At very least there's a full tuna on rye separating them.
> >
> >
> > On 5/16/13 9:51 PM, "Don Dory" <don.dory at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If we are talking about the Fuji X series, the 35mm 1.4 is an excellent
> >> lens.  Pretty close focusing and very closely integrated with the
> "brains"
> >> of the XPro to be very low vignette and really pretty flat field.
>  Results
> >> at 1600 were very good noise wise.  Just my two cents thinking about my
> >> order for the M240 vs the X series.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
> >> summaventures.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Voigt 40/1.4 at $449? I think you've said that you have the M-adapter.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> On 16/05/2013 19:27, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> >>>> My guess is that they wanted to sell enough X100and now X100s before
> >>> releasing the lens on its own.
> >>>> Jayanand
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16-May-2013, at 11:46 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> >>>> gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <
> jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, I have that, and that is what I generally use, but a fast 35mm
> >>> would be perfect for the streets!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> patience,  coming soon from several sources
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 16-May-2013, at 11:27 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
> >>>>>> summaventures.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There's the Fujinon 18 - 55 zoom.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 15/05/2013 11:09, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Way too expensive compared to Fuji's excellent offerings. They
> cannot
> >>>>>>>> be worth that much of a premium. In fact I just ordered the Fuji
> >>> 14mm,
> >>>>>>>> after seeing the disparity in price with the Zeiss. I am paying
> the
> >>>>>>>> equivalent of US$750 for the 14mm. Now, if they had the sense to
> >>>>>>>> release a 23mm - the gaping hole in Fuji's line up - it might have
> >>>>>>>> been different, I would have been sorely tempted.
> >>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Gerry Walden <
> gerry.walden at me.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Just seen these lovely lenses from Zeiss. Bit pricey but should
> be
> >>> superb!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Carl_Zeiss_Touit_12mm_f2-8/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden
> >>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
> >>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
> >>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> ===========================================================
> >>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
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-- 
Bob Adler


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