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Subject: [Leica] any Sony rx 1 users
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 19:13:51 -0800
References: <CAJ3Pgh6bJ6PhdPf-3N_Lx2FiA_PLdKwV-32Z=EJ6my9YPk38gQ@mail.gmail.com> <CD10EE74.31B9%mark@rabinergroup.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9A16A03A7@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org>

i ordered one these, wanted to wait a while for the prices to drop but
could not resist, so one is headed my way. will report back later.



On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:31 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:

> Certainly the two ZM lenses made in Germany (15mm f2.8 Distagon and 85mm
> f2.0 Sonnar) are/were priced up at Leica level...
>
> john
>
> ________________________________________
>
>
> Paul  we are told the Zeiss optics made by Cosina are placed halfway
> between
> CV Cosina  Voigtl?nder made down the hall and Leica I think both in price
> and performance.
> Historically before Contax Kyocera the battle between Leica and Zeiss was
> done without Zeiss also finding ways to undercut Leica in price.
> So they often won.
> But now with Kyocera then Cosina now Sony the "you get what you pay for"
> bit
> of common sense is not somehow magically circumvented as its not about
> winning its about undercutting. The CZ Zeiss stuff from what I gather in
> most cases a step up from Canon Nikon and a step down from Leica. Both in
> price and output. They were not able to do a black magic thing.... Giving
> you mare than you're paying for I really don't think.
>
>
>
> On 1/7/13 8:42 PM, "Paul Roark" <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The lens I use the most is the Zeiss 35/f/2.8 Biogon.  Leica has more
> > consistent and solid construction from what I've experienced, but the
> > 2 Biogons I have, no doubt Cosina built, are in the Leica class in
> > terms of the images I've been getting.  (The 18 ZM Distagon is not.)
> > So, the Zeiss-Cosina team can, at its best, make optics that are
> > really top notch.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Richard Man
> > <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> >> Indeed beautiful and light, but I wonder if a Zeiss 35/2 ZM stuck on an
> M9
> >> will get the same praise, or will it get vilified as "not Zeiss German,
> but
> >> Zeiss made by Cosina Japan" :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That camera and concept really intrigue me.  I often travel and
> >>> backpack with just the M9 and 35mm lens.  I hope the concept works in
> >>> the market so that we see it evolve.
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>> www.PaulRoark.com
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1
> >>>> Or
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/cdsa9nq
> >>>> Sony RX1 Hands-on Preview
> >>>> September 2012 | By Richard Butler & Lars Rehm
> >>>> dpreview
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/7/13 11:41 AM, "Mark William Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The lens alone... Is gorgeous.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/7/13 11:39 AM, "mehrdad" <msadat at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> here on the lug? seems like a very nice "pocketable camera"  with a
> >>> superb
> >>>>>> lens.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
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  regards, mehrdad


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