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Subject: [Leica] Some artifacts at the Computer History Museum IMG:
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:18:35 +0000
References: <B9188149-0D87-49FC-8D17-6D0E45E52936@acm.org> <2B4E44DA-B12F-447D-8D57-1F70B73133D0@frozenlight.eu> <1356078638.99316.YahooMailNeo@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <040801cddf9f$e28a9720$a79fc560$@gmail.com> <1356110884.23266.YahooMailNeo@web87402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E99CD3825B@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAAxL04M-bbc5SBQCJOcftHTp+UNKE81SPo9wWT+cR7dGfWq=qw@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E99CD3A6B4@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAAxL04P0mj71Upb1FjPMX3UJVs7KRM7TV3-dCiSYJtfAte73Ww@mail.gmail.com>

Ah, the building with the falling tiles ;-) 

john

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+john=chiaroscuro.co.nz at leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> bounces+john=chiaroscuro.co.nz at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Yao
> Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012 4:17 p.m.
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Some artifacts at the Computer History Museum IMG:
> 
> Electronic engineering.  Then off to UCL in 1986.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> wrote:
> 
> > Studying what?
> >
> > john
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Small world.  I also went to IC in 1983.
> > >
> > > Joseph
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:39 AM, John McMaster
> <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Punched cards were still in use at IC Mech Eng in 1982 (the year
> > > > before I went there)......
> > > >
> > > > John - catching up
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Piers,
> > > > > your software could have been running alongside mine then, since
> > > > > I was at IC!
> > > > > Your card punching was much more onerous than ours though, at
> > > > > Imperial there was a room with half a dozen punch machines we
> > > > > could use (as long
> > > > as
> > > > > there was one free).
> > > > > Frank
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >1970-71?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Me too, but in my last year at (high) school, taking an
> > > > > >elective course. The school had something like 30 minutes each
> > > > > >month on the Imperial College mainframe in London, which
> > > > > >involved gathering together the punched cards from the class,
> > > > > >sending down to London by Royal Mail, receiving back the print
> > > > > >out which was then split out to each user. I should clarify
> > > > > >that the cards were pre-semi-punched, meaning that the user had
> > > > > >to use a pin to push out the chads from each row/column by hand
> > > > > to code the desired character.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It took a while to do one line of code, even after the time it
> > > > > >took to learn the fundamentals of Fortran IV programming!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >And then it took a while to get the response back from the
> > mainframe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >By post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Two ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(I guess that was half-duplex transmission!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I remember the impatient waiting for the print-out to come
> > > > > >back, but my memory of reading it is very clear...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >XXX SYNTAX ERROR LINE 100 XXX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The school later graduated to having its own ICL1900 (if memory
> > > > > >serves) on site, long after I had left. Wouldn't have made any
> > > > > >difference to my skill-level!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Piers
> > > > > >


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