[Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use

[billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)]

The subject was not moms and dads, but what PROFESSONALS  use. Although many 
were also moms and dads, I have known quite a few professionals, and been 
one myself, and never did I know one that really cared what camera he shot 
with. Cameras were an investment in business equipment, and history tells us 
that many different photographers took many good photos with a variety of 
equipment. The price of Leica cameras and lenses make them a bad business 
expense for many. The fact that rangefinder cameras have some limitations is 
another problem.
The idea that this began with, that to be a professional and to get good 
saleable results one could only shoot with a Leica, cannot be supported. 
Yes, it has long been a serious camera in the hands of some, but in other 
hands, it is indeed snotty. I guess all camera groups are off to me, since I 
can shoot and get reasonable results with any of my cameras, Leica, Nikon 
and Panasonic (!). I'm only sold on the ones I have 'cause they work for me. 
I have shot a variety of cameras in the past, and all gave acceptable 
results, to a greater or lesser degree.

Bill Pearce

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Rabiner
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:17 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use

No your saying Leicas are sold in jewelry stores. Its a snarky put down. One
does not have to be a Leica "fanboy" to pick that up.
I think you should consider that this list has lots of people who find Leica
use very realistic and not elitist. It having a long history of big names
and happy dads and moms shooting with them. It long being considered a
serious not snotty camera. This is reality not fan boy stuff. If you're not
into it maybe join a list which involves gear you ARE into.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:23:41 -0600
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
>
> Mark,
>
> I wouldn't consider what I have said to be "Intensely" negative, except to
> mindless fanboys. It is only my experience. Even in the sixties and
> seventies, I found stores that sold Leicas to be stuffy places that only
> sold their fine wares to the rich. I can remember being shooed away from 
> the
> Leica counter to a Pentax by a salesman that considered me unworthy. In 
> have
> an M9 (the second Leica I have owned), and shoot it with pleasure. And to 
> be
> honest, in the last few days, this list has been getting a little too 
> fanboy
> for my taste. I may take a month off.
>
> Bill Pearce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon.streeter
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:56 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
>
> The Leica store in Pasadena did look like a jewelry store, now that I 
> think
> about.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
> Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 11:58 pm
>
>
> My Leicas I got from camera world in Portland or B&H in NY or one lens 
> from
> Glazers in Seattle. All look like camera stores and not the slightest bit
> like jewelry stores. Where does stuff like this come from I wonder?
> If ones approach to Leica is so intensely negative why involve yourself 
> with
> it or be on a Leica list?
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>> From: Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:24:35 -0600
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
>>
>> AS someone who has been a professional since the early seventies, I can
>> tell
>>
> you that film Leicas were always the very most expensive, and always sold 
> in
>>
> stores that resembled jewelry stores. This business isn't news. There may
>>
> have been a time when Leicas were affordable to pros, but that time was 
> the
>>
> forties and fifties.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon.streeter
>
>
>
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