Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think it's possible that concentrating on tech stuff can detract from the experience of being in the moment, but, since anything's possible, it can also add to that experience. I see nothing wrong with following one's interests. Socrates worried that learning to read would diminish his students' ability to rely on their memories. Advocates of the printed word on paper express concerns about the younger generation forgetting how to read and write. On the other hand, humans are intensely visual -- vision has been called "the queen of the senses" -- so perhaps we're evolving or raising our collective level of consciousness while our ability to distinguish hyphens from dashes goes by the wayside. F/64 on a tripod or F/0.95 handheld, it's all valid. There is room in my universe for competing and contrary philosophies. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: tedgrant at shaw.ca To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements.... Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 1:49 pm >>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements.... > Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 8:12 am > .... some folk want the EXIF data, others want the corrections in the firmware > to be functional. > > Different strokes for different folks.......<<<<< Jeeeeesshhhh I just have to ask? Even if it's different stuff? :-) Knowing all this EXIF and not knowing it? Does knowing it make for better content in the photo? Or in real time of capturing the moment? It doesn't really mean a flying hoop whether you know it or not! Like does it make you far more aware of the magical moment and when to go "CLICK?" Like? To what does it contribute to making a saleable or gallery or front page cover photo? Capturing the runner winning the race? Or is it just a thing that techies put in new cameras to annoy old guys like me? :-) Just wondering on a quiet Saturday afternoon. :-) It is Saturday isn't it? cheers, Dr. ted :-) Annoying aren't I! :-) "Smile!" Somebody had to ask! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon.streeter" <jon.streeter at cox.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements.... >I discovered in "How Beer Saved Civilization" that it's even more sensible >>than I had thought. Available on DVD. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements.... > Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 8:12 am > > > ... some folk want the EXIF data, others want the corrections in the > > firmware > to be functional. > > Different strokes for different folks....... > > Frank Filippone > Red735i at verizon.net > > > And remind me why I would spend $120-$250 on this 6-bit business rather > > than > on something sensible like beer? > > My 1.2/35mm CV works just fine on my M8 without any coding, so that is the > big deal? > > Cheers, > Nathan > > > > On Nov 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Frank Filippone wrote: > >> All true. Correct focus is the issue. However, if your lens was in >> calibration before you changed the flange, then if it is in focus ( at >> any >> place) after changing the flange, no further testing is required. >> >> As I said at first, if your lens is out of calibration to begin with, >> you need a calibration done on the lens. Why not change the flange >> before sending the lens in, and get that advantage as well.... >> >> Of course, it is a cost issue... $250 or so with flange at Leica or $100 >> plus $20 flange at DAG. Same end result. >> >> Frank Filippone >> Red735i at verizon.net >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >> Marty Deveney >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 7:53 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements.... >> >> There is no issue of being able to change the flange yourself or if >> all 6 screws are absolutely required (they are not), it's just that if >> you change the flange yourself the only way you have of checking if >> the focus is still correct is to shoot, and this requires a lot of >> careful testing at different distances and apertures, and if there is >> a problem it is well beyond the capability of most people to fix it > themselves. >> >> Marty >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Frank Filippone >> <red735i at verizon.net> >> wrote: >>> Guess it must be OK for mere mortals as well...... >>> >>> Frank Filippone >>> Red735i at verizon.net >>> >>> Leica just put the new flange on with five screws, my Noctilux and >>> 75mm Summilux are both like that after their trip to Solms. >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> >>> There ARE 6 screws in Leica M lenses. However, there are 2 hole > patterns. >>> One of the patterns allows for the replacement flange to be fitted >>> and use all 6 screws. The other pattern, has a screw right where the >>> 6 bit codes are.. So upon replacement, only 5 screws are used. >>> >>> I do not know what Leica does about this dilemma, but for us mere >>> mortals, it means there are 2 different flanges to choose from. >>> >>> >>> Frank Filippone >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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