Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/16

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Subject: [Leica] Art
From: jon.streeter at cox.net (jon.streeter)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:03:53 -0800

Thanks, Mark.  Lots of useful info here.

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From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] Art
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2012 6:39 am


If you cant get a gallery to hang your prints start off in a coffee shop.
More people will see them anyway.
So its kind of a thing where if you want to be an artist than just do what
artist do.
Make prints
Sign them
Mat and frame them.
Hang them on a wall.
Put a price tag on the bottom left hand corner which reflects what up and
coming photographers are getting in galleries. (2-300 dollars) Not on the
internet (2-30 bucks).
The point is really not to sell prints. You're not going to sell many or any
to even cover your matt board which is 100% rag and will cost some real
money. Especially when you screw one up on your new mat cutter.
The point is to put yourself in the right market.
The gallery market is a market just like the senior graduation pix market or
the small product shot market. You find out what's being done and you do it.
Does not take magic powers or having special parents.

Having framed those prints for a coffee shop when some up and coming gallery
wants your work up maybe in a group show you've already got some framed. You
just have to get them over there. You put cardboard protector things on the
outside corners of the frames.
Black metal simple frames you put together yourself.
Buy yourself a matt cutter and start cutting window mats with a bevel.
Buy a Stabilo All 8008 pencil to sign your prints (even semi gloss ones)
made in Germany.
Wear a beret.

If its mat prints a simple Staedtler tradition Made in German HB will do. Or
2B through 8B.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:17:30 +1000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Art
>
> Au contraire, mon fr?re
>
> Fine art is what the client is impressed enough to pay good money for, to
> put on their wall ;-)
> Nothing I ever shot, that's for sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
>
> On 16 November 2012 15:54, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> For anyone who has gone through "Fine Art photo" contests, workshops, 
>> blogs
>> etc... This is of no surprise.
>>
>> "Fine Art Photography," by the fact that it has to have a name, rather 
>> than
>> just "Photography," is a different animal from just about anything any
>> Leica shooters (or LUG shooters) would shoot.
>>
>> It's all about expressing the artist view of their navels, with some 
>> flying
>> goats as a metaphor of some aspects of human psyche or a reflection of the
>> inner turmoil of the minority group...
>>
>> Of course they are the ones that sell the 12 million dollar stuffed 
>> sharks.
>>
>> Yea, I am sort of bitter :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>
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