[Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M

[hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)]

I follow what Marty has said and I don't doubt his measurement nor exactly
what he said (not what might be interpolated/assumed from it).
>From my perspective that specific measurement does not stand alone from the
circumstances. By that I mean it might only be relevant if the camera is to
your eye, powered on, with the composition and exposure and focus decisions
made  and the first pressure on the release (because you need the camera
awake and the meter on for a start) and has been taken up and you have
perhaps anticipated your body's own limitations in reaction times. If I
walk around like that I'm likely to walk into street light poles. I've had
and shot with M3,6,7, 8, 9 maybe 30,000 frames . Except for early digital
cameras I've just never noticed any delay in any practical scenario for me.
On the other hand seeing the clear optical view with perhaps some of the
surround visible too can be invaluable compared to the "tunnel" view of
many SLRs.


Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 6 November 2012 23:50, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> Same here.  It's so much faster than auto-focus in most digital cameras!
>  My M8, M9 and MM are plenty fast for me.
>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Cannot believe how critical you guys are with this shutter lag
> discussion.
> > I do street shooting all the time and never notice a problem or have an
> > issue and have used both an M8 and now the 9.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On 2012-11-06, at 12:23 AM, jon.streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you, Marty.  This is exACTly the kind of info I was looking for.
> >  A digital M in theory would be a dream camera, allowing one to shoot to
> > one's heart's in a wide range of ISOs and in black and white and color.
> >  But all these advantages are worthless if the camera has to think it
> over
> > before taking the picture.  Unforgivable in a Leica.  I'll hang on to my
> > relics and delight in the time I spend with them.  I'd post a portrait
> if I
> > could figure out how.
> > >
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> > >
> > > ----- Reply message -----
> > > From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > Subject: [Leica] Kate Kirkwood and Leica Liker
> > > Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 7:44 pm
> > >
> > >
> > >> Now that the digital M
> > >> cameras have long shutter-lag times even when compared to DSLRs,
> > suddenly
> > >> we're hearing that shutter lag doesn't matter, that nobody notices it.
> > >> Really?  Nobody?  For capturing fleeting expressions in a portrait
> > session,
> > >> nobody has noticed it?
> > >
> > > The M8, M9 and Monochrom lag time is about 1/13s.  To me it's the most
> > > substantial problem with all these cameras.  It's been discussed here
> > > widely before:
> > > http://leica-users.org/v43/msg02993.html
> > > http://leica-users.org/v44/msg03170.html
> > >
> > > Leica has stated that the new M (typ 240) has new architecture that
> > > makes the camera faster and the shutter feel smoother.  The dummy
> > > cameras that have been doing the rounds at the trade fairs seem to
> > > display at least the latter, while no-one has measured the former.
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
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