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Subject: [Leica] LR Soft Proofing Redux
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:59 -0400
References: <3A2F2679-AC45-4B4E-A0FD-DBD58483F55F@acm.org> <CAF8hL-FkS=Q0_7oawgQRsRs=SWTTasQdtfsvWDT3V2G_jjM7DQ@mail.gmail.com>

What's missing from the equation is a profile editor. Even if you make
your own profile or use one supplied by the ink or paper mfgr, in
practice I've always wanted to tweak them.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Richard Man
<richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> Herb, it depends on what you do with Soft Proofing. What it does is that it
> shows you, as best as it can, what the image looks like if printed using
> that particular profile. So what you would do is to make a virtual copy and
> then tweak the soft proofed copy to look like what you want before you
> print. You can even have the original and the soft proofed images side by
> side to see.
>
> Now to get this to work really work, you must:
> a) have a calibrated display
> b) have the right profile for your printer/paper.
>
> If you already have a) and b), then your print out should be pretty good
> match for your monitor display for most gloss paper on new printers. What
> fail most of the time is if the paper is matte (which has a lower DMax and
> looks duller comparing to gloss or semi-gloss) or very vibrant colors that
> are out of gamut of the printer/paper combo. Soft proofing would let you
> see that and compensate before you print. You may have to make additional
> compensations after seeing the prints of course.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Just a final comment. My last post was much too wordy, and the gist of it
>> may have been missed. It is that soft proofing my trial picture and then
>> printing it produced a worse print than my originally developed LR print.
>> The monitor and prints before soft proofing were similar in saturation,
>> slightly different in hue. After soft proofing, both showed less 
>> saturation
>> and, imho, were poorer, were missing what LR calls "vibrance".
>>
>> Has anyone actually improved a print by LR4 soft proofing?
>>
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at acm.org
>> 650-326-8204
>>
>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>
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-Lew Schwartz


In reply to: Message from kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner) ([Leica] LR Soft Proofing Redux)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] LR Soft Proofing Redux)