Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/11

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Subject: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:54:23 -0400

Yes the practitioner has to practice. Its not an instant thing. You're not
shooting jpegs untouched by human hands.

Mark William Rabiner


> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:58:42 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
> 
> And the results are only as good as the practitioner...
> no matter the tool.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 11, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> Its not an issue of belief or what words I or someone types on their
>> keyboard. We are talking about photographs; results. Prints. They exist 
>> and
>> they speak for themselves.  Of course they are totally viable. At least 
>> ten
>> years this stuff has been going on it was not invented yesterday.
>> You're calling it trickery in quotes but merging and stitching is the
>> accepted standard of the industry for at least wide angle larger format
>> results; there are cameras built with such stiching in mind sporting 
>> medium
>> format  sliding  multi step stitching digital backs.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
>>> Organization: Summa Ventures Ltd
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:31:40 +0100
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
>>> 
>>> Rabs,
>>> 
>>> very perceptive commentary. Do you believe that technically the printable
>>> quality now obtainable through this sort of "trickery", whether by chip 
>>> or
>>> film,
>>> is as good as that obtainable with large format?
>>> 
>>> Paul obviously does. But, do you? Do others?
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> On 07/09/2012 22:26, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>> It does seem audacious or even impudent for a respected worker to be 
>>>> out in
>>>> Ansel Adams territory with a 35mm camera. ...  Ansel A. would climb 
>>>> these
>>>> mountains before modern mountain climbing methods and been invented yet
>>>> with
>>>> an 8x10 camera on his back and a half dozen 8x10 glass plates in his 
>>>> early
>>>> 20's. 
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> But what Ansel didn't have and we have now is the ability to merge
>>>> individual exposures together and with each one we've in effect 
>>>> increased
>>>> our format size by that much.
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> So we have a decisive new paradigm shift now in how we might obtain 
>>>> images
>>>> with an astounding amount of breath taking information .
>>>> The word "coverage" can be used in a whole new way in photography.
>>>> Very large format results possible with very small formats.
>>>> We could go out with even smaller cropped digital sensors and work
>>>> spontaneously and then with carful stitching made large format results. 
>>>> And
>>>> I think here on the lug we've seen some from pocket point and shots with
>>>> sensors the size of your baby fingernail.
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> ===========================================================
>>> Dr Peter Dzwig 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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