Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The irony in my own work is that IS or VR as Nikon calls image stabilization (vimage ratabilization) is as big a deal for serious DSLR work, rangefinder as well as it is for more casual point and shoot work with far smaller sensors. And I've not had the pleasure yet its something to really look forward too. A major supercharger to my image making. One of my main lenses, the Nikon 24-85mm AF-S G has just been upgraded to VR and is the lens at the top of my short list: AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm F3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens. I can try to guess what the use of that lens will bring to my work but I have a feeling I'm not going to at all know at all till its on my camera and I'm looking at the results. The 105 macro which I have on my camera right now having been sent it yesterday is now VR in the past year which has I've been told and I believe; revolutionized it's use in the macro world in which I'm so fond. Making the lens now on my camera OBSOLETE! :) In the old days when we shot indoors or at night we used wide angles now we can use tele's when ever we want though most of that is just the digital thing. Image stabilization is the icing on the cake. But it may also be the electric knife you cut the cake with. And the ball of vanilla ice cream you put next to the chocolate cake. It may be the PUDDING in the recipe. Betty Croker better keep her day job. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:55:21 -0400 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Conversation: [Leica] A new M from Canon > Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon > > A friend of mine who is an engineer uses her LEICA D-LUX 3 often to shot > her > civil engineering projects always in full 16/9 format using the whole > sensor > and always at the LOWEST ISO which is 80. Plenty of her shots are indoors > or > otherwise in low light situations. Its the optical Image stabilization > which > she swears by which enables her to do this and the results appear to be > from a > camera made with a far larger sensor than whatever the mysterious 1/1.65 " > Type CCD sensor is we found out once I think. - by using the 16/9 mode she > makes use of the whole sensor. Not the other way around as is usually the > case. The camera came out of 2006 but I don't think she feels she needs a > new > one yet. > > The secret to small sensor use is using the low ISO's and being saved by > IS. > Or a tripod. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:04:43 -0500 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon >> >> What we need though is an APS-C camera with built-in IS for using our >> legacy lenses. It's damned hard to focus them at arms length much less >> hold the camera steady. Sure we could use a tripod, but that defeats >> the purpose, don't it? ;) And I don't know about you but I can tell >> the difference between 4/3 shots and APS-C shots, mostly with the >> XPro-1 sensor without the optical low-pass filter. The images a >> cleaner with less noise and SHARP at least with the Fuji lenses. What >> I crave for is an XPro-1 with sensor IS, so I can use a small format >> carry everywhere camera with great lenses and the ability to use >> legacy glass when I want it to. Is that too much to ask? >> >> Jim Laird >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Richard Man >> <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote: >>> By every single review I read, the E-M5 sensor is as competitive with any >>> APS-C sensor in most aspects - dynamic range, high ISO etc. Don't let >>> that >>> 4/3 small size sensor fool you if the camera suits you otherwise. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What I don't understand is why Sony brings out a SLEW of DSLRs, AP-C >>>> and full frame with what they call 'steady-shot' IS built into the >>>> bodies. Works quite well on the one's I've tried out. Then they bring >>>> out the NEX series, cameras virtually begging for legacy lenses...no >>>> IS. Same with Canon now. Of course Canikon has always been about lens >>>> IS. But when you're holding a tiny camera like the NEX or the new >>>> Canon M out at arms length to focus you NEED IS just to hold it >>>> steady. Sony's announced some IS zooms for the NEX along with Canon >>>> with their new M but what we need is a system with good primes and/or >>>> the ability to use legacy lenses with built-in IS like the OLY M4/3 >>>> cameras but in the APS-C format. I really think if the Fuji X-Pro1 >>>> missed the boat...should have had sensor IS and it might have >>>> conquered the digital world. I'd own one if it had sensor IS ala OLY >>>> and SONY. Beautiful camera and you can use legacy lenses. Sometimes >>>> you just need IS to get the shot. >>>> >>>> Jim Laird >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Although I bit on a mirrorless camera myself, I perfectly understand >>>>> why >>>>> several bloggers have suggested that it is less expensive to buy a >>>>> lower >>>> end >>>>> DSLR, that will produce better IQ. If I were not invested in legacy >>>> lenses, >>>>> I would seriously consider one of the less expensive Sonys. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:34 PM >>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon >>>>> >>>>> I'm completely with you, Alan. >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to imagine using this camera with one of the great-vast EOS >>>>> lenses attached and held at arms length. REALLY? >>>>> >>>>> The NEX-7 I use has virtually the same form-factor. NOT the same >>>>> high-ISO >>>>> performance I'll grant you that, but the only time I find myself using >>>>> it >>>>> without the EVF is when it's on a tripod. >>>>> >>>>> I just don't see what's to be all that excited about this camera. It's >>>> about >>>>> 8 months late to market, at least, and it gives us many features that >>>>> the >>>>> lowly Rebel has. >>>>> >>>>> Probably I'm completely wrong and it'll be a huge hit. But not for me. >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> On 2012 Jul 23, at 6:50 PM, Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not interested - no viewfinder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information