Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/25

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Subject: [Leica] A new M from Canon
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:53:10 -0700
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Jim, have you done real tests with the E-M5 sensor?

I can understand the dislike of the control, that's a very personal
preference.


On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:43 AM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> I tried one Frank. Hated those tiny, tiny controls. Worked well though
> but it really needs APS-C. I think OLY made a mistake with the 4/3
> format. And then Sony puts the topping on the cake and brings out the
> NEX-7 WITHOUT IS. Go figure. The NEX-7 with 'steady shot' IS would be
> just about perfect for legacy lenses IMHO. Be nice if it had the
> hybrid viewfinder of the XPro-1 but I guess you can't have it all. But
> the added size and weight of the IS lenses from Sony E and Canon M
> defeats the purpose of a light pocketable take anywhere camera.
>
> Jim Laird
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:28 AM, FRANK DERNIE
> <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > The best camera for legacy lenses I have tried is the Olympus OM-D FWIW.
> Superb camera with excessively complex menu, like all of the non-Leicas I
> have tried.
> > FD
> >
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >> From: James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
> >>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 9:20
> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
> >>
> >>What I don't understand is why Sony brings out a SLEW of DSLRs, AP-C
> >>and full frame with what they call 'steady-shot' IS built into the
> >>bodies. Works quite well on the one's I've tried out. Then they bring
> >>out the NEX series, cameras virtually begging for legacy lenses...no
> >>IS. Same with Canon now. Of course Canikon has always been about lens
> >>IS. But when you're holding a tiny camera like the NEX or the new
> >>Canon M out at arms length to focus you NEED IS just to hold it
> >>steady. Sony's announced some IS zooms for the NEX along with Canon
> >>with their new M but what we need is a system with good primes and/or
> >>the ability to use legacy lenses with built-in IS like the OLY M4/3
> >>cameras but in the APS-C format. I really think if the Fuji X-Pro1
> >>missed the boat...should have had sensor IS and it might have
> >>conquered the digital world. I'd own one if it had sensor IS ala OLY
> >>and SONY. Beautiful camera and you can use legacy lenses. Sometimes
> >>you just need IS to get the shot.
> >>
> >>Jim Laird
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Although I bit on a mirrorless camera myself, I perfectly understand
> why
> >>> several bloggers have suggested that it is less expensive to buy a
> lower end
> >>> DSLR, that will produce better IQ. If I were not invested in legacy
> lenses,
> >>> I would seriously consider one of the less expensive Sonys.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:34 PM
> >>> To: Leica Users Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
> >>>
> >>> I'm completely with you, Alan.
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying to imagine using this camera with one of the great-vast EOS
> >>> lenses attached and held at arms length. REALLY?
> >>>
> >>> The NEX-7 I use has virtually the same form-factor. NOT the same
> high-ISO
> >>> performance I'll grant you that, but the only time I find myself using
> it
> >>> without the EVF is when it's on a tripod.
> >>>
> >>> I just don't see what's to be all that excited about this camera. It's
> about
> >>> 8 months late to market, at least, and it gives us many features that
> the
> >>> lowly Rebel has.
> >>>
> >>> Probably I'm completely wrong and it'll be a huge hit. But not for me.
> >>>
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>> On 2012 Jul 23, at 6:50 PM, Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Not interested - no viewfinder.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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