Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/25

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Subject: [Leica] A new M from Canon
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 03:43:11 -0500
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I tried one Frank. Hated those tiny, tiny controls. Worked well though
but it really needs APS-C. I think OLY made a mistake with the 4/3
format. And then Sony puts the topping on the cake and brings out the
NEX-7 WITHOUT IS. Go figure. The NEX-7 with 'steady shot' IS would be
just about perfect for legacy lenses IMHO. Be nice if it had the
hybrid viewfinder of the XPro-1 but I guess you can't have it all. But
the added size and weight of the IS lenses from Sony E and Canon M
defeats the purpose of a light pocketable take anywhere camera.

Jim Laird

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:28 AM, FRANK DERNIE
<frank.dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
> The best camera for legacy lenses I have tried is the Olympus OM-D FWIW. 
> Superb camera with excessively complex menu, like all of the non-Leicas I 
> have tried.
> FD
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 9:20
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
>>
>>What I don't understand is why Sony brings out a SLEW of DSLRs, AP-C
>>and full frame with what they call 'steady-shot' IS built into the
>>bodies. Works quite well on the one's I've tried out. Then they bring
>>out the NEX series, cameras virtually begging for legacy lenses...no
>>IS. Same with Canon now. Of course Canikon has always been about lens
>>IS. But when you're holding a tiny camera like the NEX or the new
>>Canon M out at arms length to focus you NEED IS just to hold it
>>steady. Sony's announced some IS zooms for the NEX along with Canon
>>with their new M but what we need is a system with good primes and/or
>>the ability to use legacy lenses with built-in IS like the OLY M4/3
>>cameras but in the APS-C format. I really think if the Fuji X-Pro1
>>missed the boat...should have had sensor IS and it might have
>>conquered the digital world. I'd own one if it had sensor IS ala OLY
>>and SONY. Beautiful camera and you can use legacy lenses. Sometimes
>>you just need IS to get the shot.
>>
>>Jim Laird
>>
>>On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> 
>>wrote:
>>> Although I bit on a mirrorless camera myself, I perfectly understand why
>>> several bloggers have suggested that it is less expensive to buy a lower 
>>> end
>>> DSLR, that will produce better IQ. If I were not invested in legacy 
>>> lenses,
>>> I would seriously consider one of the less expensive Sonys.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:34 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
>>>
>>> I'm completely with you, Alan.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to imagine using this camera with one of the great-vast EOS
>>> lenses attached and held at arms length. REALLY?
>>>
>>> The NEX-7 I use has virtually the same form-factor. NOT the same high-ISO
>>> performance I'll grant you that, but the only time I find myself using it
>>> without the EVF is when it's on a tripod.
>>>
>>> I just don't see what's to be all that excited about this camera. It's 
>>> about
>>> 8 months late to market, at least, and it gives us many features that the
>>> lowly Rebel has.
>>>
>>> Probably I'm completely wrong and it'll be a huge hit. But not for me.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On 2012 Jul 23, at 6:50 PM, Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not interested - no viewfinder.
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Replies: Reply from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
In reply to: Message from amr3 at uwm.edu (Alan Magayne-Roshak) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
Message from abridge at mac.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
Message from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
Message from frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)